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post #1 of 14 Old 05-12-2016, 08:50 PM Thread Starter
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TJ Hardtop leak on top of rear window glass

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Just picked up my very own 2001 Wrangler sport that came with only a soft top. Purchased a hardtop from a 98. Washed the car yesterday and went inside to check for leaks. I noticed the top of the rear window glass had a little water running down it and am worried if I leave it out in the rain for the day, the whole back will be wet. Should I replace the seal or is there any other easy fixes? Thank you!

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post #2 of 14 Old 05-12-2016, 09:00 PM
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if you have the soft top clips on at the bottom of the window take them off thats causing mine to leak by the wiper motor.

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Do you mean this?:





Those don't interface with the rear window on my 2000 Sport with a 2006 hard top... HTH
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Those don't interface with the rear window on my 2000 Sport with a 2006 hard top... HTH

Depends on which soft top you have. Mine originally came with the stock ones which were fine with the hard top on but the ones that came with my Bestop Sunrider would bang against the window so you couldn't close it

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Depends on which soft top you have. Mine originally came with the stock ones which were fine with the hard top on but the ones that came with my Bestop Sunrider would bang against the window so you couldn't close it
My soft top and hard top are both OEM...
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I took the soft top clips out before I installed the hard top. The leak is on top of the glass of the rear window
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Speaking of soft top clips (and this other recent thread https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/ho...s-gate-621434/ ). I'm still confused about whether the oem softtop clips were intended to also hold the factory hardtop window closed? Some say yes, some say no. Was it only on certain years?

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Speaking of soft top clips (and this other recent thread https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/ho...s-gate-621434/ ). I'm still confused about whether the oem softtop clips were intended to also hold the factory hardtop window closed? Some say yes, some say no. Was it only on certain years?
No.
The clips are mounted to the tub. if they were mounted to the tailgate I could see some discussion pertaining to that.
The OEM clips have nothing to do with holding the OEM hardtop window closed...
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I noticed the top of the rear window glass had a little water running down it and am worried if I leave it out in the rain for the day, the whole back will be wet.
Clean the seal and glass good. When closed check to see that the glass is sitting flush and even all the way around the edges.
The rear glass is adjustable if need be. Also may want to try reinstalling the hard top. be sure to clamp the front before bolting down the rear.
If it still leaks then a new seal may be in order, however I have the feeling the leak you are worried about is prob less than the soft top was allowing in.
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I have the feeling the leak you are worried about is prob less than the soft top was allowing in.
I've driven in blinding rain on the highway and never had any water leak inside when I had the soft top on...
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My soft top leaks through the two little holes that I can see sun light through


I run my hard top a few times on my '05 with the soft top tailgate bar brackets on before I sold the hard top. No issues.


My '04 came from the factory with the dual top option and has the brackets. There was no soft top when I bought it. I've never had a leak on it either.


You shouldn't need to remove those brackets when you put the hard top on.


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Did you see this comment?


"If that's true, then why was my hard top window firmly pushed into the soft top brackets when I bought it brand new off the Jeep dealer lot? There were three brand new dual top LJs on the lot for sale that day and they were all like that.

And the brackets DO keep the window from going (popping) out. The first year I owned it, I removed those brackets when I put my hard top back on, thinking I should and guess what? The window didn't seal properly, just like everyone here is complaining about. My rear window has little rubber bumpers along the bottom seal that fit (as I pictured in a post above) right into those brackets."

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"If that's true, then why was my hard top window firmly pushed into the soft top brackets when I bought it brand new off the Jeep dealer lot? There were three brand new dual top LJs on the lot for sale that day and they were all like that.

And the brackets DO keep the window from going (popping) out. The first year I owned it, I removed those brackets when I put my hard top back on, thinking I should and guess what? The window didn't seal properly, just like everyone here is complaining about. My rear window has little rubber bumpers along the bottom seal that fit (as I pictured in a post above) right into those brackets."
I suspect that is serendipitous in your case. I have to remove my brackets which are not OEM and never had an issue with water going in the rear window with the hardtop on. I also don't think it is by design since I am pretty sure if you bought a TJ from factory with only the hardtop it would not come with said brackets.

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I suspect that is serendipitous in your case. I have to remove my brackets which are not OEM and never had an issue with water going in the rear window with the hardtop on. I also don't think it is by design since I am pretty sure if you bought a TJ from factory with only the hardtop it would not come with said brackets.
Exactly.


My '05 was hard top only from the factory and when I wanted a soft top I had to buy the tailgate bar brackets. The hard top only models, in fact, do not come with those brackets.


The OE brackets are designed so that you can leave them on when running a hard top, but they are by no means required for it to seal properly.


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