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post #1 of 50 Old 10-15-2019, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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Synthetic Winch Rope?

I have a Warn M8000 with steel cable that I want to replace with synthetic rope. The steel cable is 3/8” diameter, 100ft. In looking at replacement rope of the same diameter and length, I’m noticing a HUGE disparity in prices. On Amazon, I see it for $100 to $150. When I go to the Warn website, their Spydura brand is $325, and some of their others are up to $500.

My question is twofold:

1. Is the Warn rope superior to the “off-brand” stuff, in the same fashion that a Warn winch is superior to some of the cheaper brands? (Thereby making the extra cost justified)

2. How can Warn offer their current 8K winch with synthetic rope for a total price of around $550, if the line itself is $325? That doesn’t seem to make sense to me...

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I have a Warn M8000 with steel cable that I want to replace with synthetic rope. The steel cable is 3/8” diameter, 100ft. In looking at replacement rope of the same diameter and length, I’m noticing a HUGE disparity in prices. On Amazon, I see it for $100 to $150. When I go to the Warn website, their Spydura brand is $325, and some of their others are up to $500.

My question is twofold:

1. Is the Warn rope superior to the “off-brand” stuff, in the same fashion that a Warn winch is superior to some of the cheaper brands? (Thereby making the extra cost justified)

2. How can Warn offer their current 8K winch with synthetic rope for a total price of around $550, if the line itself is $325? That doesn’t seem to make sense to me...

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1) It depends on the material the "off brand" is using.
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The PO who bought synthetic line for my Warn 8000 paid $245 from Desert Rat but a brand is not listed. It says the rating is 10,000lbs and it is 3/8". As long as it's Dyneema I would feel confident buying it.


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some ropes are better than others.
if i wanted really good rope i would look into bubba rope.
i bet most decent winch ropes would work well for a few years.
will they hold up long term is the question?
rope ages over time and uses.

i had blue amsteel on my old 8274, it was way old!
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To 53Flattie,

Some observations:

1. Spydura winch rope is high quality. It has a UV protective coating that many synthetic winch ropes do not have. However, whether Spydura or another brand is "better" is highly subjective. The major suppliers all sell products with a load rating sufficient for an M8000. The "no name" products that can be found on Ebay and other inline sites are cheaper, but the true quality and strength is an unknown.

2. Although the M8000s ships with 100' of 3/8" Spydura synthetic winch line, 100' is actually too long because in any kind of side pull the winch line will spool on one side with the very real possibility of damaging the winch tie rods or drum supports. 85' is a better length, even if it means cutting 15' off a brand new 100' Spydura winch line.

3. My personal preference for synthetic winch line is the product sold by Tactical Recovery Equipment (TRE) with a Safety Thimble II. When I purchased my M8000s I replaced the brand new Spydura winch line with an orange 3/8" 85' winch rope from TRE, shown below. [Imagine how full the drum would be with an additional 15' of winch rope.] https://tacticalrecoveryequipment.co...ic-winch-rope/

4. I still have my Spydura winch rope, cut to 85' and the gusseted thimble professionally re-spliced but otherwise unused, in a box sitting on my spare parts shelf. I could be persuaded to part with it at a fair price if you are looking for a Spydura winch rope to replace the steel cable on your M8000. Send me a private message if that is of interest to you.
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To 53Flattie,

Some observations:

1. Spydura winch rope is high quality. It has a UV protective coating that many synthetic winch ropes do not have. However, whether Spydura or another brand is "better" is highly subjective. The major suppliers all sell products with a load rating sufficient for an M8000. The "no name" products that can be found on Ebay and other inline sites are cheaper, but the true quality and strength is an unknown.

2. Although the M8000s ships with 100' of 3/8" Spydura synthetic winch line, 100' is actually too long because in any kind of side pull the winch line will spool on one side with the very real possibility of damaging the winch tie rods or drum supports. 85' is a better length, even if it means cutting 15' off a brand new 100' Spydura winch line.

3. My personal preference for synthetic winch line is the product sold by Tactical Recovery Equipment (TRE) with a Safety Thimble II. When I purchased my M8000s I replaced the brand new Spydura winch line with an orange 3/8" 85' winch rope from TRE, shown below. [Imagine how full the drum would be with an additional 15' of winch rope.] https://tacticalrecoveryequipment.co...ic-winch-rope/

4. I still have my Spydura winch rope, cut to 85' and the gusseted thimble professionally re-spliced but otherwise unused, in a box sitting on my spare parts shelf. I could be persuaded to part with it at a fair price if you are looking for a Spydura winch rope to replace the steel cable on your M8000. Send me a private message if that is of interest to you.

Bummer TRE doesn't sell O.J. sleeves, mostly because I'm too lazy to go buy the steel to make one.


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Bummer TRE doesn't sell O.J. sleeves, mostly because I'm too lazy to go buy the steel to make one.
OJ sleeves?
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What are "OJ sleeves?"


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I'm sold on Tactical Recovery Equipment (TRE). Very happy with their products.
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If you buy a rope, buy one that is made from Amsteel blue....nothing else is even close and its more UV resistant.
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Gemstone offroad has quality recovery gear and rope as well.

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An OJ sleeve is for the Hi Lift, firefighters use them to stabilize vehicles. It would be great for times you want your Hi Lift as stable as possible like when changing a tire or putting rocks under one.

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ahhh. most of us dont recommend using a hi-lift jack
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ahhh. most of us dont recommend using a hi-lift jack
People who recommend not using one definitely shouldn't. Nor matches, firearms, hot water...
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