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post #1 of 16 Old 04-11-2007, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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Spider Gears and Cost...

I have been quoted $500 to replace the spider gears in my rear end.

Is this reasonable or too much?

It is only the spider gears, no bearings or anything. Just the spider gears. Thanks!

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post #2 of 16 Old 04-11-2007, 09:20 AM
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It should be really easy and that would not be a good price. You do not need to remove the carrier or anything to get them out so you could do it yourself. One problem might be if you have really low gears. In front there is no way of removing the crosspin from the carrier because the gears are in the way. So, when I bust my front spiders, I can't fix it myself and it will cost a lot. And I can't put in a lunchbox locker either.

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he didnt go into details about what he is having to do to replace them but I am pretty ignorant on what needs to be done.

The problem I have is I trust this guy but if he is ripping me off, I want to know. What are some questions I should ask to see what all he is doing?
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That's pretty high if it truely is just the spiders, it's maybe at most a 2 hour job. But if they are including the price of new from Jeep spider gears, maybe not that high of a price.

I would suggest you post up asking for a set of used spider gears, just about everyone who's installed an ARB or Detroit has there old carrier and spider gears left over. And spider gears don't wear much, they are only in use when turning corners or when one wheel is slipping, they last forever if they don't get broken on the trails.
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It would be a little expensive IMO. I blew the spiders in my rear dana35 when it was stock, assuming your axle gears are stock or close to it, there should be no trouble with getting the crosspin out. I wouldn't imagine it would take a shop more than 2 hours. Figuring parts are cheap, maybe $150 and it shouldn't take long, at $95 per hour that is wtill only $350 for the job. Personally, I could do it in my driveway with hand tools in about an hour to an hour and a half. I find it hard to imagine that a shop with proper tools and whatnot would need even longer.

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I have been quoted $500 to replace the spider gears in my rear end.

Is this reasonable or too much?

It is only the spider gears, no bearings or anything. Just the spider gears. Thanks!
This isn't a problem, It's an oppotunity for an upgrade. Forget the spiders. Put in a LL or an LS.
The problem will be fixed and your Jeep will be better for it.
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post #7 of 16 Old 04-11-2007, 10:29 AM
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pay him his estimate fee and do it yourself, there's plenty of help here on the forum and you're going to have to get self reliant or go broke with a Jeep
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wow thats a ton of money for that you could get the rear regeared and all new guts for a 150 bucks more...id say do it yourself if you have any mechanical knowledge...the hardest part should be the backlash on the ring gear...i could help you if you like just pm me i have no classes mwf...just pm me and i can maby take a trip to where you are your not far

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wow thats a ton of money for that you could get the rear regeared and all new guts for a 150 bucks more...id say do it yourself if you have any mechanical knowledge...the hardest part should be the backlash on the ring gear...i could help you if you like just pm me i have no classes mwf...just pm me and i can maby take a trip to where you are your not far

You can remove the spiders without removing the carrier so backlash is not an issue. Unless you have my gears up front which do not allow the crosspin to be removed without the ring gear off of the carrier.

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post #10 of 16 Old 04-11-2007, 10:41 AM
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That's a very high price in my book.
You can buy the kit to replace them for under $100.
You can do it yourself with basic hand tools, a couple of quarts of 75W90 and some RTV silcone.
Should take under 2 hours of your time tops.

Save yourself $400 and DIY!
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That is way high. Even the labor to install a new ring & pinion should only be about $300.

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I just did this last weekend on my D35. (yj). $6.00 for spiders from the local boneyard, 2 hours to pull the old ones and add the new ones in.

Go this route, it's rather easy.

Pull wheels. Unbolt axleplate and slide axles out about 4 inches.

Remove diff cover, then remove 4 bolts holding carrier in place.

With Carrier on workbench, remove roll pin and spiders rotate right out. Rotate in new spiders. Installation is reverse of the above.

Wven with only basic hand tools this is less than a 2 hour job in the driveway or garage.

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I just did this last weekend on my D35. (yj). $6.00 for spiders from the local boneyard, 2 hours to pull the old ones and add the new ones in.

Go this route, it's rather easy.

Pull wheels. Unbolt axleplate and slide axles out about 4 inches.

Remove diff cover, then remove 4 bolts holding carrier in place.

With Carrier on workbench, remove roll pin and spiders rotate right out. Rotate in new spiders. Installation is reverse of the above.

Wven with only basic hand tools this is less than a 2 hour job in the driveway or garage.

i bet he can do it even easier than we can i thought on the c-clip d35 there was a nut that holds the pinion shaft in on ours we have to hammer that stupid shear pin or whatever its call..i could be wrong about this just from what i was told

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wow thats a ton of money for that you could get the rear regeared and all new guts for a 150 bucks more...id say do it yourself if you have any mechanical knowledge...the hardest part should be the backlash on the ring gear...i could help you if you like just pm me i have no classes mwf...just pm me and i can maby take a trip to where you are your not far
I have the same question about the spider gear. The repair shop wants to replace all the gearing - front and back. Their claim is that the TJ has 323 gears which are hard to find. They want to put in 373 gears just to fix the missing teeth in the spider rear. I know that I would like more power in the 327, but do not need to spend unnecessary money on the toy. Can the missing teeth be repaired without replacing gears?
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U cant fix missing teeth.
if you have a jeep tj, its not 3.23 gears.
Its 3.07, 3.55, 3.73, 4.10, or 4.56.

u might seek a second opinion at this point.

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