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post #1 of 32 Old 06-23-2020, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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Put money into my TJ, or buy a new JL?

So I have been contemplating...

Would consider a new JL, but I just keep thinking about 50-60K and what I could do to my TJ with even a fraction of that money.

Not that I ever just throw money around, but I can think of a lot of things I could do versus spending $8-900 a month for a car payment.

Am I crazy to think that way?

What's y'all's opinion?

BYW, I think my 1st gear syncro is gone in my 6-speed, and probably either my throwout bearing or pilot bearing is shot in the clutch, so I'm looking at some work soon.

I really love my TJ, and if I start putting more money in it, I may just keep it forever.

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post #2 of 32 Old 06-23-2020, 02:48 PM
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Just think of the kind of vehicles you could buy with $60k other than a minivan. Big block chevelle with a numbers matching 396, Camaro Z28 with a 302, slightly used Porsche 911...

I’d feel sick making payments for five years on a JL when I could’ve purchased something bad ***.
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post #3 of 32 Old 06-23-2020, 02:59 PM
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Spending 50-60k on a vehicle is foolish for the average person.

There are countless other things that can be done with that $900 (saving and investing are the best in my opinion). Fix the TJ. You could have a remanufactured transmission and new clutch for about $2k if you do the work yourself.

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post #4 of 32 Old 06-23-2020, 05:33 PM
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Pump your brakes.

Totally up to you. you are the person that must live with you decision.


I went through these gyrations with mine long ago. same with my other toys, ... yeah, new means you get to yammer about newness but, but, but,...

honestly:
  1. what is the future value of the $400+ car note (and increased in insurance premiums) if invested into $ generating assets, retirement, savings, business, rentals, SOU-SOUs...
  2. are those nameless people you are trying to impress with the JL gonna kick in some funds as well?
  3. Is indentured servitude worth it so you can try to be cool to nameless people?
  4. Why not a 2020 Gladiator (JT)?
  5. How many other cars/trucks/toys could you get for that same $45K+?
  6. why not wait it out and go used... and let some other genius eat that depreciation?
  7. ...[add your own deep thoughts]
  8. ...
  9. ...
  10. ...
  11. ...
  12. ~$7.00 used BONUS....https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...condition=used
  • my TJ has been faithfully by my side for over 14 years... it will stay by my side. I've put in the work and it's MINE!!!!!!
  • I have everything that except assisted driving features like lane departure, intelligent cruise, etc... and I don't want that crap.... I only drive manuals.... I don't want to drive an iphone. K.I.S.S. METHOD

you'll (hopefully) make the right choice for you ... and you are the person the must ultimately live with this decision...
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post #5 of 32 Old 06-24-2020, 06:18 AM
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Keep the TJ.

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post #6 of 32 Old 06-24-2020, 06:23 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the replies fellas. I’ve had my TJ for about 13 years now, and I don’t really want to give it up, but sometimes the lure of something new, or newer is tempting.

Now, to give you a little more information, one of my ideas was that since I would need to be doing some work on the transmission and clutch, I was thinking that maybe it might be a good time for an LS3 and auto transmission swap. Mostly for fun, because I probably don’t need a V8. But if I keep my Jeep forever, why not? Am I still thinking crazy?
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post #7 of 32 Old 06-24-2020, 07:04 AM
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Get a JL.

How much for the TJ?
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post #8 of 32 Old 06-24-2020, 08:51 AM
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There is no better car value than the one you currently own. You could do the transmission for 1 or 2 payments on a JL.

If you kept putting a JL payment's worth a month into your TJ, you would probably run out pages in the Quadratec catalog a year before you paid off the stock JL.
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post #9 of 32 Old 06-24-2020, 09:35 AM
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Keep the TJ....
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post #10 of 32 Old 06-24-2020, 01:37 PM
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Well, my wife and I have enough saved, enough liquidity, and don't have to worry about college for our kids (I'm active duty going 5.5 years from retirement and she's medically retired after 10.5 years), so we kept my paid off TJ and bought a Gladiator for me to drive around daily. I gotta be honest, I absolutely love driving the JT around. It's a fun little Jeep/truck. I went with a modest Sport S with Max Tow and I couldn't be happier. I put 35s on it and a leveling kit just to make it look a little better, but it will remain a stock ride for the most part. This allows me the flexibility to tear the TJ down and build it back up over time.
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Well, my wife and I have enough saved, enough liquidity, and don't have to worry about college for our kids (I'm active duty going 5.5 years from retirement and she's medically retired after 10.5 years), so we kept my paid off TJ and bought a Gladiator for me to drive around daily. I gotta be honest, I absolutely love driving the JT around. It's a fun little Jeep/truck. I went with a modest Sport S with Max Tow and I couldn't be happier. I put 35s on it and a leveling kit just to make it look a little better, but it will remain a stock ride for the most part. This allows me the flexibility to tear the TJ down and build it back up over time.
What a great choice! You seem to be in a position to afford it without putting yourself in a bind. What is the value of the satisfaction you get from owning/driving the JL around? You will probably keep it forever, so the cost over the long run will be relatively negligible. Nothing wrong with buying something you really like because you can. Makes all the sweat and tears you put into the work you do worth it. AND, you only live once. Congratulations!
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Don't give up the TJ, you would regret it. Nothing wrong with an extra vehicle, but the upmodel's not a good value. Jeep is now charging $20,000 extra for the red dashboard glue-on trim and equal-cost full-time transfer case.

I feel like I got away with something with my JK Sahara. I'm embarassed to admit I might pay $4,000 extra for the appearance package, if it's really something special, but $20,000 ?

The $20,000 piece of plastic on the dash reminds me of the guys who attach Mercedes emblems to their 20-year-old Buicks.

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Just think of the kind of vehicles you could buy with $60k other than a minivan. Big block chevelle with a numbers matching 396, Camaro Z28 with a 302, slightly used Porsche 911...

I’d feel sick making payments for five years on a JL when I could’ve purchased something bad ***.
This if you really want another vehicle besides the TJ

I'd keep the TJ and do the trans work then give it any restoration work it needs with what you'd spend on payments for a new Fiat Jeep that will drop in value like a stone, keep the TJ a mild build so it will hold it's value or even increase in value over time.
it looks great as is.

If you do an engine swap, consider any inspections you may have to pass now or in the future, the way things are going emissions testing will be happening in more and more areas. if you are unable to get tags for it it's just lawn art.

But then I'm biased about old Jeeps.

Whats over that next ridge?
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post #14 of 32 Old 06-28-2020, 06:46 PM
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Do you have a shop you trust to install a V8?
An 8 cyl would be awesome. More power is always good. But then you change the Jeeps specs from oem.
You are located in Florida so I assume it will never rust.

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post #15 of 32 Old 06-28-2020, 08:30 PM
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Keep the TJ
Save the $$

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