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post #1 of 11 Old 10-09-2019, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
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Need help (what axles do I have?)

Hi im a seventeen year old who was given a Jeep to fix up, I’ve done simple things like new soft top, front headlights, and new fender flares, but I want to do some Off-roading and want to install a rear diff and upgrade shocks but I don’t know what axles my Jeep has.
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-09-2019, 05:57 PM
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Wrong forum...should be in TJ tech.

That being said, Dana 44 rear(IIRC...factory metal plug is 44 and rubber plug is a Dana 35) and Dana 30 front.

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Black Hills TJ is correct, Dana 30 front, Dana 44 rear.
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x2, you got a lucky one with the d30 front and d44 rear.

now step 1, remove that lower steering stabilizer, drop pitman arm, and whatever that bracket is for the track bar on the axle side. seems really odd that they used a drop pitman arm and raised track bar. i'd imagine the bumpsteer is rather intense.


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x2, you got a lucky one with the d30 front and d44 rear.

now step 1, remove that lower steering stabilizer, drop pitman arm, and whatever that bracket is for the track bar on the axle side. seems really odd that they used a drop pitman arm and raised track bar. i'd imagine the bumpsteer is rather intense.
This. I'm no steering expert, but that funky contraption would scare the crap out of me.

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Yup D30/D44. As IH said, you got lucky!

Remove that abomination of a steering setup you have there. Get rid of at least one steering dampener and I would remove drop pitman arm and put frame diff side trac bar back in the original mounting location.

Your rear shocks have adapters on them to move them away from contacting coil perches. They will reduce your uptravel by a bit. You can just clearance your rear perches IF they interfere. I would measure what your compressed / extended distance is with coils and shocks removed, to determine what shocks to get. Lots of youtube videos on how to out there.

What is that bracket on the outside of the frame by your UCA's?
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Yup D30/D44. As IH said, you got lucky!

Remove that abomination of a steering setup you have there. Get rid of at least one steering dampener and I would remove drop pitman arm and put frame diff side trac bar back in the original mounting location.

Your rear shocks have adapters on them to move them away from contacting coil perches. They will reduce your uptravel by a bit. You can just clearance your rear perches IF they interfere. I would measure what your compressed / extended distance is with coils and shocks removed, to determine what shocks to get. Lots of youtube videos on how to out there.

What is that bracket on the outside of the frame by your UCA's?
It seems to connect to the axle
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x2, you got a lucky one with the d30 front and d44 rear.

now step 1, remove that lower steering stabilizer, drop pitman arm, and whatever that bracket is for the track bar on the axle side. seems really odd that they used a drop pitman arm and raised track bar. i'd imagine the bumpsteer is rather intense.
Thanks for the reply I will now put the steering on to do list, is there any particular reason on why the setup is bad or if there is anything I should watch out for?
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There is just simply no need to have 2 dampeners. I don't even use one at all.

Do a dry steering test with the help of a buddy, check for wear on all your steering components. Look for ANY play in the track bar, TREs etc..

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many companies held old beliefs about lifting jeeps and steering from the leaf spring days, which dont work well on a coil sprung vehicle.

in order to maintain proper setup for the inverted Y steering, which our TJ's use, the drag link and track bar must be on the same plane. that is, if you drew a line between the mount points of those two items they would be parallel, which then allows them to travel on the same arc while the suspension moves. when adding a drop pitman arm it lowers the drag link mount point, some get around this by adding a track bar drop bracket but it seems like they went the opposite way with your setup and raised the track bar mount on the axle side. that would put the drag link and track bar even further out of whack, which is likely why they added the second stabilizer, thinking it would help. it appears that they mounted the track bar in the OEM steering damper position and the lower stabilizer is in a lowering bracket that connects to the OEM track bar mount location. luckily the rest of the steering appears OEM. the only thing dual stabilizers do is put more stress on your steering box.

If I were you, I'd get an OEM pitman arm, ditch the lower stabilizer, pick up an adj track bar from currie or MC mounted in the OEM location, and move the upper stabilizer back to its original position.


that should give you a good starting point and the jeep should handle much much better


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post #11 of 11 Old 10-10-2019, 03:26 PM
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If you look at the numbers on metal tag at the 9:00 o'clock position of the rear diff cover, you will know what factory gear ratio, probably with the D44, 3.73, unless regearing has been done.

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