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Lock Right vs EZ Locker Questions

I'm trying to decide between a Lock Right or an EZ Locker for the front of my 98 2.5L. Currently all stock with 4.10 gears and a 5 speed.

In reading the application information on the Lock Right it says
http://www.powertrax.com/jeep1lr.pdf "The Lock-Right Locker should be used only on vehicles equipped with locking hubs on the front axle or with front axle disconnect"

I know I don't have locking hubs, I'm assuming a front axle disconnect is what YJ's have? Is this telling me I shouldn't put one on my TJ that will be driven on the street?

Any recommendations as to which way to go are appreciated. This Jeep is my "DD" but since I work out of my house it only sees's a few hundred miles a month at best.


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I can tell you this - do not get an e-z locker (they are junk) I have had nothing but trouble with mine from the day it was brand new.

read these :
https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303425
https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303943
https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303732

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Since your front axle is always spinning, the locker will have some effect on your steering even when you are not in 4 wheel drive. On vehicles with unlockable front hubs, the front diff doesn't spin in 2wd so steering is unaffected.

All the vehicles I've ever had a front locker in had unlockable hubs, so I can't say for certain, but I think you would probably notice decreased ability to steer with an auto-locker in the front of a TJ, probably with a tendency to under steer. How much it would bother you is probably a matter of personal taste.

Undoubtedly someone who actually runs a front aussie/ez/lockrite can tell you how much of an effect it actually has. I wouldn't want that setup in the snow though!
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As opposed to most other 4x4 vehicles, the TJ has no need for locking hubs or front axle disconnect to run a front automatic locker. So those warnings are valid for most other 4x4 vehicles, just not the '97 and newer TJ. In 2wd, you won't even notice the presence of a front locker other than minor soft clicking when turning. Between those two, definitely go with the Lockright as it is a much smoother operating locker.

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Since your front axle is always spinning, the locker will have some effect on your steering even when you are not in 4 wheel drive.
Not on the TJ. The reason being is the TJ's 231 transfer case does not provide power to the front driveshaft so a front-mounted locker will not be locked up tight like happens in other vehicles which is why they can have steering issues. In the TJ, you won't notice any steering issues whatsoever.

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Front Auto lockers are completely invisible when in 2wd. Sometimes when there is slippage on one wheel under braking you will hear ratcheting but that is just to locker doing one of its jobs. Otherwise mine is completely silent. I can never hear the ratcheting when turning like others say they here.
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Ahh, I stand corrected, Jerry, and your explanation makes sense.. no torque being applied to cause it to lock. Good to know, I've shied away from a front "lunchbox" thinking it would make steering a nightmare (I was imagining it acting like it was locked full time), but I miss having one.

In that case, I'd still not want it in the snow.. but only when on-road in 4 Hi.
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x2 on not getting the ez locker - mine was junk as well - had too many problems with it. I recently installed an Aussie locker - $249 shipped from northridge4x4 and this thing is awesome. feels like an open diff when in 2wd
https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512950
my 2nd outing with it this weekend - ran it on a lot of rocks, lifted tires left and right and the thing performed flawlessly

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Where was that pic taken?

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x2 on not getting the ez locker - mine was junk as well - had too many problems with it. I recently installed an Aussie locker - $249 shipped from northridge4x4 and this thing is awesome. feels like an open diff when in 2wd
https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512950
my 2nd outing with it this weekend - ran it on a lot of rocks, lifted tires left and right and the thing performed flawlessly
did yours feel like it was disengaging all the time? (at times when it shouldnt be)

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did yours feel like it was disengaging all the time? (at times when it shouldnt be)
That's not normal for the Lockrite, Aussie, No-Slip, or EZ-Locker. None of those should never feel like it is disengaging. Perhaps you're just feeling the tire with the most traction slipping against the terrain?

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That's not normal for the Lockrite, Aussie, No-Slip, or EZ-Locker. None of those should never feel like it is disengaging. Perhaps you're just feeling the tire with the most traction slipping against the terrain?
No, mine was disengaging because of poor tolerances when it was originally built. It needed excessive shimming to get it "almost" working properly after getting this info straight from a detroit rep. I decided no more ez -locker for me.
I was just curious if he had the same problems

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I wouldn't want that setup in the snow though!
I'll have to see how it does in snow / ice. We don't get a whole lot of that here and I have other 4x4's I can use if it causes a problem. I'm building this one as a low budget street / trail vehicle and can give up some street manners for low cost trail improvements.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone, sounds like the EZ-Locker is out of the running.

Between the Aussie and the Lock Right it sounds like the Lock Right is easier to install? The Ausse instructions talk about removing the carrier which I'd like to avoid. The Lock Right install instructions don't mention that.

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Yep EZ-Locker definitely gets a big for lots of reasons. It's a wonder Eaton hasn't either improved or discontinued that locker.

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youll have to remove your carrier with either - its really pretty simple though and you dont have to worry about setting up your carrier again or anything like that - just reinstall it.

Wheels off - on jackstands - calipers off - slide axles out a few inches then remove the caps on the carrier - pry out carrier and thats it (the really condensed version of course) youll need 12pt wrenches/sockets instead of a crummy cheap set

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