Let's talk about the Zone Offroad 4.25" Combo Lift Kit... - JeepForum.com
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post #1 of 26 Old 06-14-2019, 09:28 AM Thread Starter
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Let's talk about the Zone Offroad 4.25" Combo Lift Kit...

First off, I've decided to run 33s instead of 31s. I've come so close to getting the 4" Rough Country lift 3 different times. Had it in my cart on their website, but could not hit the confirm button. Every Wrangler forum on the interwebs keeps suggesting this 4.25" lift from Zone. And I just don't get it. 3" suspension lift, in my mind, should require new controls arms and the 4.25" kit doesn't include them. That means more money spent. That's why I keep going back to the RC lift. It has all that. I get that it's cheap, and I'm okay with that. I'm not gonna be dogging this Jeep on the MOAB anytime soon. It's my DD that will soon have 90% highway miles on it for my commute to work everyday. Any "offroading" this Jeep will see is your occasional dirt road and tracks through the hunting land.

RC and Zone both have a 4" full suspension lift that are very similar to one another. The only difference is the TC drop brackets/mounts. RC has a solid tube and Zone has the puck spacers. I'm fine with the look of dropping the TC, but I do not like the look of the puck spacers to do it.

Then there's the whole deal of a SYE and CV drive shaft. The word on the street is the 4.25" doesn't require it and the 4" RC/Zone kits might require it for TJs with automatic transmissions, and that's exactly what I have. And you might not know that you need it even if you drop the TC.


I feel like I'm ranting. I want to lift my Jeep, but I don't know the whys and why nots to pick one over the others.

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Does the 4.25" Zone Lift require new/longer control arms? Why/Why not? Do pinion angles not matter anymore?

Does the 4.25" Zone Lift require the SYE/CVDS? Why/Why not?

What makes the 4.25" Zone lift better then the 4" Zone lift? 4" RC lift?

Are the springs/shocks that come with the 4.25" Zone kit better than the 4" Zone kit? Why/Why not?

How does the Zone body lift effect the gear shifters?

Regardless of the kit, should I put coil spacers in the front for a HD bumper?

Does anybody run the 4" Zone/RC lift with an autotranny? Did it require a SYE/CVDS even after dropping the TC? Reviews?


The kits referenced:

http://zoneoffroad.com/zone-offroad-...angler/j25-j26
http://zoneoffroad.com/zone-offroad-...angler/j10-j11
https://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-su...-tj-4wd-374061

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post #2 of 26 Old 06-14-2019, 09:38 AM
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More people recommend the combo lift because it's only 3" suspension lift and 1.25" body lift. Less chance of messing with the angles.

The zone has better shocks.

The factory control arms are better quality (bushings) than the RC junk.

Personally, it sounds to me like you should stick with 32's and do a 1.25" body lift and call it a day.
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The factory control arms are better quality (bushings) than the RC junk.
i get that they may be "junk" but the real question is are the factory arms long enough?
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I've run the Zone 4.25" on two different TJ's, is the perfect setup for 33's that you can build on in the future (if you desire to). The BL and MML corrects your driveshaft angles and prevents you from needing adjustable control arms as well as needing a SYE/CV DS. For 33's, the 4.25" lift is your ticket, It's proven to be a durable kit that rides well and gives excellent value for the price.

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Add me to the list that ran (and still run) the Zone 3". Great kit for the price especially when I had 33" KM2s. Only reason I moved away from the stock arms was I was doing an axle swap and had money to burn but I also knew I was moving on to 35's at sometime.

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I've run the Zone 4.25" on two different TJ's, is the perfect setup for 33's that you can build on in the future (if you desire to). The BL and MML corrects your driveshaft angles and prevents you from needing adjustable control arms as well as needing a SYE/CV DS. For 33's, the 4.25" lift is your ticket, It's proven to be a durable kit that rides well and gives excellent value for the price.
After reading through threads regarding the 4.25” kit, one of the downsides to this kit is the lack of oil that’s fed to the front cylinder in the engine. Granted, I’ve only read that from one user so it might’ve been an isolated incident. Any thoughts on this?
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After reading through threads regarding the 4.25Ē kit, one of the downsides to this kit is the lack of oil thatís fed to the front cylinder in the engine. Granted, Iíve only read that from one user so it mightíve been an isolated incident. Any thoughts on this?
That is 100% bull****! I have run MML and BL combos on both jeeps. Never had an issue. Thousands of other TJ/LJs run the same combo and you never hear this.

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After reading through threads regarding the 4.25Ē kit, one of the downsides to this kit is the lack of oil thatís fed to the front cylinder in the engine. Granted, Iíve only read that from one user so it mightíve been an isolated incident. Any thoughts on this?
Hahaha, WHAT????
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Hahaha, WHAT????
call me crazy. i know i read it. i can't for the life of me find it now though. it was mentioned. maybe this guy let his Jeep leak too much oil or something. lol
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i get that they may be "junk" but the real question is are the factory arms long enough?
For 3-4" of lift, yes.
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Additionally, you can get a fair amount of adjustment on your front lowers if you install cam bolts.
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Hmm. I guess I never checked my oil with that lift.
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call me crazy. i know i read it. i can't for the life of me find it now though. it was mentioned. maybe this guy let his Jeep leak too much oil or something. lol

Sorry if only one person claims to have issues of anything I would look at it as anecdotal thus completely dismissable until others have the same experience.



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haha

here's one instance. it's not the one i saw earlier today, but it's the same concept. see post #6. like you guys, everyone laughed at the thought of that theory.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f282/z...t-1632721.html


for what it's worth, i bought the Zone 4.25" kit and the metal cloak track bar today. i hope it's everything and more that you guys are saying. now off to rims and tires.
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haha

here's one instance. it's not the one i saw earlier today, but it's the same concept. see post #6. like you guys, everyone laughed at the thought of that theory.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f282/z...t-1632721.html


for what it's worth, i bought the Zone 4.25" kit and the metal cloak track bar today. i hope it's everything and more that you guys are saying. now off to rims and tires.
Congrats, can't beat that combo for the price! You'll want 3/4" spacers for the front springs to level it.

Factory wheels can fit 33's no problem, you'll just need 1.25" wheel spacers. What tires are you considering? What axles/gears do you have?

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