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post #1 of 8 Old 10-18-2019, 03:54 PM Thread Starter
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Ignition issue?

I'm wanting to make sure I'm not overlooking something. The other day, when trying to start, I got nothing at all when turning the key. I quickly realized something didn't feel right. Took the column apart and it was obvious that the actuator pin was broken. No big deal until I replaced it and I'm still getting nothing. Went ahead and changed the ignition switch itself too with no luck. Everything "feels" correct and normal while cycling the key. Is it still possible the I have something assembled incorrectly?

And to add to the weirdness, I noticed my fan not working when cycling through the four speeds. I just changed the resistor a few months ago. It seems like I have an electrical gremlin somewhere but it seems odd that it all happens at the exact time that actuator pin breaks?

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post #2 of 8 Old 10-18-2019, 04:19 PM
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Getting nothing, as in the cluster doesn't power on, fuel pump doesn't prime, headlights won't work etc? Have you checked your battery, cables, and fuses?

If the cluster powers on and the fuel pump primes but the starter doesn't work, what is your voltage gauge reading on the cluster? What does the reading show when you turn the key to start? Turning your headlights on and then trying to start the engine, do the headlights dim noticeably or do they stay bright?

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post #3 of 8 Old 10-19-2019, 07:06 PM Thread Starter
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Cluster powers on. Fuel pump primes. 12 volts on the gauge.

Basically nothing happens when moving the key from on to start. Lights stay same brightness when key is moved to start.

Edit to add.... also double checked and clean battery cables.
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post #4 of 8 Old 10-20-2019, 08:06 AM
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naybe probe at the starter motor relay - see if START signal is reaching relay, would confirm ign switch install.

When I see the price of OEM I think aftermarket.
When I see the quality of aftermarket I think OEM.
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Try tapping starter with hammer.
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post #6 of 8 Old 10-20-2019, 12:42 PM
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naybe probe at the starter motor relay - see if START signal is reaching relay, would confirm ign switch install.

Also pretty easy to remove the covers & 1 bolt holding the ignition switch to the actuator & pop the switch off. Recheck the actuator pin & see that the wiring connector is fully plugged into the switch then turn the switch with a screwdriver to see if that will engage the starter.

Hard to believe the tip was broken & something else was also causing it not to engage the starter. I suspect it was something to do with the installation of the actuator…
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post #7 of 8 Old 10-22-2019, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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Getting back at it.

Tried giving a few licks to the starter.

Also, tried to start by screwdriver in the ignition.

No luck with either.
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post #8 of 8 Old 10-22-2019, 07:28 PM
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  • Check for a blown fuse 6 (30a) in the PDC.
  • Try swapping the starter and horn relays in case you have a bad relay.
  • If you haven't already done so, install a 20a fuse in position 20 in the fuse block to bypass the clutch interlock to see if the starter will now work.
  • Remove the starter relay from its socket and use a test light to check that you're getting battery power to terminal 30, you have a good ground at terminal 85, and that the test light illuminates when you have it connected to terminals 85/86 and you turn the ignition to start.

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