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post #1 of 21 Old 06-24-2020, 02:04 PM Thread Starter
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How much Lift should I add to my highlined 05 Jeep TJ so I have no tire clearance iss

I have an 05 X with 4.0 5spd with no swaybars, a DIY Highline, 2" wheel adapters, And brand new Coils off a 4-door JL . Riding on 35x10x17 interco SSR's. The rear outter wheel well is trimmed out to the spot welds and then bent over and hammered flat against the inner wheel well. At full flex my tires are hitting my body front and rear. So what size lift should I get? I have no intentions of getting bigger tires. Every thing I've read says not to add more then a 2" which is why I bought the COILS from a 4door JL. But it's not enough and it's a real rough ride. I was leaning towards 2.5 coils with ranch 5000 for a 4.5" lift but I want some input before I go spending money. I ordered a diy highline hood line tube fenders from C&C that should eliminate the front tires rubbing. Any input would be appreciated

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post #2 of 21 Old 06-24-2020, 02:53 PM
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Yes, a lot of info, but a clean 4" spring lift with a body 3/4" lift is a good start. For 35" tires, since he's already removed fenders.

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Itís not the lift, itís the bumpstops - from your description itís does not sound like they are set correctly. Bumpstops are what control rubbing at the top of the fender, regardless of the lift. Did you pull the springs, flex test and adjust the bumps when you did this lift?

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Itís not the lift, itís the bumpstops - from your description itís does not sound like they are set correctly. Bumpstops are what control rubbing at the top of the fender, regardless of the lift. Did you pull the springs, flex test and adjust the bumps when you did this lift?

No. i didnt flex test with out the springs and the bump stops havent been touched. i was wanting alot of up travel and thought that would give me less. I was hoping to have enough tire clearance to not have to do that. But maybe thats not possible. The jeep must have had a 2" lift on it when i got it because i have the same amount of room between the tire and fender as i did before i put the springs on. maybe less. this is the jeep on flat ground. i Have 5" between the rear tire and fender flare. I was thinking i wanted 10".
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I think you've answered your own question. The bumpstops are used to keep the tires out of the wheel wells, and yours are not doing so. With properly set bumps, you tires should just clear the top of the wheel wells at full articulation. To set them correctly, put the frame up on tall jack stands, pull the springs, reinstall the shocks and tires. Fully articulate each axle - meaning one side at full bump, and the other side at full droop. Adjust the bumpstop so that the tire at full stuff just clears the fender, and you are golden.

It's important to do this at full articulation, because if you set the bumps with both sides at full stuff, at full articulation the tires will still be getting into the fenders.

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Set your bumpstops correctly and use freaking sway bars. This has correct bumpstops, stock rear sway bar, and Antirock front.
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It seemed like the rearward portion of the front wheel wells could be cleaned up by buying one of the high-line kits (or DIYing it)

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Why not just lift it?

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Remove the springs and fully cycle the axles with a floor jack. That will tell you everything you need to know.

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Why not just lift it?
Why lift, if you don't have to, to run 33s or 35s?

On my favorite trails, tire size is the important attribute, because of the mud holes. We can't see the obstacles in the mud holes, so lift does not help (unless it's the method you've chosen to increase tire size).

I've upgraded my springs to provide increased support for offroading. And I like the bias in favor of having more uptravel than downtravel, but additional lift would not be much of an advantage in the mud holes I encounter.

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Getting the frame off the ground might be the only way to get through an obstacle.
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Hmmm, distinction between visible obstacles, vs obstacles underneath the waterline. In any event, a typical TJ lift is 3". Since my spring upgrade gives me 1" lift, we're talking about a difference of 2".

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Hmmm, distinction between visible obstacles, vs obstacles underneath the waterline. In any event, a typical TJ lift is 3". Since my spring upgrade gives me 1" lift, we're talking about a difference of 2".
What is your frame height? Mine is about 21" with a belly height of 19". Whether I can see the obstacle or not, clearance is clearance.

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