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post #1 of 8 Old 11-14-2019, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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How do you reattach this bolt?

So I was taking off my light bar mounts to repaint and when I unscrewed the bolts, I noticed that the "nut" on the backside fell off. I thought the backside of the window frame had the nuts welded in but it looks like a piece of metal with the 2 nuts attached to it has fallen into the inside of the window cavity. I see no way to get in there. In the 1st pic you can see the area I'm talking about. The 2nd pic shows the best close-up I could get of the inside of the window frame with the nut freely bouncing around inside. WTF?

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post #2 of 8 Old 11-14-2019, 02:39 PM
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I've never messed with those bolts, but maybe fold the windshield down?
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post #3 of 8 Old 11-14-2019, 04:43 PM
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I've had to deal with loose nut plates in door frames of vehicles at work. Dropping the windshield forward may help as there are some holes in the bottom of the frame, but I can't remember how far they are from the corners. I'd try it as it is at the moment as the plate is visible, and it would obviously move if the frame were folded down.


It needs patience. You'll need some pretty thin rod and/or maybe some welding wire or similar. It can be difficult to get plates like that oriented using only the holes for access. Once the plates are oriented you need a bent wire/hook so you can pull on the plate through one hole and hold it in place. You then need to remove the wire from one hole and get a bolt started. It can help using a longer bolt with a nut on. When the thread is started, the nut can be wound on to hold the plate whilst the hook is removed and one of the original bolts fitted. The longer bolt can then be removed and replaced with the proper bolt.


Did I say it needs patience?
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post #4 of 8 Old 11-14-2019, 07:21 PM
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You could always use a well nut. Would have to use a different and perhaps modified bolt, but should work

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_nut

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A scribe magnet pulled and super glued into a plastic straw might work. Your are out of luck if you live in Kali. A short length of heat shrink tube could work. You may be able to stick a coat hanger through some heat shrink tube, shrink it and then put a rare earth magnet on the outside end and that may be enough to magnetize the bit of coat hanger exposed to grab the nut plate inside the hole.

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post #6 of 8 Old 11-15-2019, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the advice. Patience is the key for sure. Folding the windshield fwd still doesn't seem to give enough space to get in there and situate the nut plate easily. The way I got it maneuvered into position was with some small allen wrenches and coat hanger wire. I was able to get a bolt started but the new problem I discovered was that the nut threads are somewhat stripped... Looks like it was slightly crossthreaded when the previous owner installed the light bar mounts. Since the nut is already trashed I used some medium loctite and just stripped out the bolt/nut even more as I don't plan to remove the bolts again hopefully. I don't think they will hold too long so I'm thinking the wellnut approach will be my next step. Problem with that is the nut plate will be rattling around inside the frame (can't get it out easily even with window down) so I may shoot a small amount of insulation foam in there to keep it from bouncing and help sturdy the wellnut.

I'll update the thread whenever my current setup breaks and i need to try the wellnut route. :-(

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as far as the stripped threads, what if you run the next larger tap, even if you go from metric to sae or sae to metric.

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as far as the stripped threads, what if you run the next larger tap, even if you go from metric to sae or sae to metric.
That's what I did for right now. The only issue is I think I used a slightly longer bolt than necessary so it doesn't seem to want to tighten but so far. The other bolt is short and is barely hanging on (Had to not use a washer to get the bolt to reach). And I don't want to take the bolts back out and go through the pain of redoing the procedure again until I have to. As long as you don't compare driver side bolts to passenger side bolts it looks fairly legit. I was patient enough to paint the bolts black so they don't look completely backyard repaired.
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