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post #31 of 150 Old 12-12-2017, 06:50 AM
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That might work. OP will need to make sure he works with measurements from his year as skid positions changed slightly, didn't they?
My unique circumstances probably allow this to work better than you might expect. I just need some decent dimensioned drawings of the mounts and their locations on the frame and axles. We have a plasma table at work and I do a large amount of drafting work. We have a CNC break, and I have machinist friends. The means are there. I will just need a good Samaritan to help me out with the drawings.

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What are you wanting to do with your Jeep? That may determine what you want to build.


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post #32 of 150 Old 12-12-2017, 07:06 AM Thread Starter
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What are you wanting to do with your Jeep? That may determine what you want to build.
I don't need any serious off road capability. I'll mostly just be on old gravel roads, a few fields, ect. I wanted to run 35's, but from the sound of it, that's a lot more expensive than I'd like to deal with. I was thinking in my initial post it would be similar to a dodge/chevy truck on 35's, but a bit of research later, I'm finding that this is not the case.

I wonder if the most cost effective option may be to find a rollover wrecked TJ and starting swapping parts. Sell what I don't need, scrap some of the trash I've got.

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I wonder if the most cost effective option may be to find a rollover wrecked TJ and starting swapping parts. Sell what I don't need, scrap some of the trash I've got.

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At least then, you would have a template for what shouldn't be there and for what should. Honestly, a frame and axle swap makes the most sense. Skip trying to undo what has been done.

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i think buying a new used frame and a set of axles would be more cost effective then returning that to stock. you will probably be chasing issues forever if something isn't aligned when re-welding or something was installed on it poorly.

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Depending on where you're at (or if you want to freight them) I have a Dana 44 and 30 set I'll be selling. Very good shape structurally, but rusty. You might be just as happy with a Dana 35 rear though.

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post #37 of 150 Old 12-12-2017, 09:05 AM
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I think it depends how much you are into it for, and how much you are willing to spend.

Yes, it has a lot of extra crap, but that frame looks low mile and rust free, no?

Many TJ owners would kill to have that as a starting point compared to what they currently have.
Not finding/ swapping a frame saves a good ton of dough that can be put towards fixing the rest of the suspension

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post #38 of 150 Old 12-12-2017, 09:08 AM
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My unique circumstances probably allow this to work better than you might expect. I just need some decent dimensioned drawings of the mounts and their locations on the frame and axles. We have a plasma table at work and I do a large amount of drafting work. We have a CNC break, and I have machinist friends. The means are there. I will just need a good Samaritan to help me out with the drawings.

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Measurements for the frame from the Factory Service Manual are below.

Unfortunately the FSM does not provide measurements for the axle brackets.


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I think it depends how much you are into it for, and how much you are willing to spend.

Yes, it has a lot of extra crap, but that frame looks low mile and rust free, no?

Many TJ owners would kill to have that as a starting point compared to what they currently have.
Not finding/ swapping a frame saves a good ton of dough that can be put towards fixing the rest of the suspension

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Yes, the frame is rust free and has 35k miles on it. I want to stay under $15k total cost ($12k optimal). I paid $7k for it. The wheels and tires on it should bring $1k or so. The rest is probably trash. I have a couple of Dirt Logic shocks left over from my truck lift that I might be able to use.

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Measurements for the frame from the Factory Service Manual are below.

Unfortunately the FSM does not provide measurements for the axle brackets.


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Thank you! I wonder if there are any detailed drawings of the brackets themselves. I'm sure it would be cheaper to fab them vs purchasing replacements

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Depending on where you're at (or if you want to freight them) I have a Dana 44 and 30 set I'll be selling. Very good shape structurally, but rusty. You might be just as happy with a Dana 35 rear though.
I'm in MO. I kinda doubt it would be the most economical option to ship those to me, but thank you!

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Even though i'm not really a fan of long arm kits on a TJ, that may be an easier route than trying to cut off that mess and put the factory type mounts back in. If it were me I would probably cut all that crap off and toss it. Then i'd pick up a XJ high pinion 30 front and Explorer 8.8 rear from the junk yard. By some kind of long arm lift that doesn't require the factory short arm frame mounts and start from there.
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.....and the “track bar” doesn’t appear to be connected to the frame at all....



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Even though i'm not really a fan of long arm kits on a TJ, that may be an easier route than trying to cut off that mess and put the factory type mounts back in. If it were me I would probably cut all that crap off and toss it. Then i'd pick up a XJ high pinion 30 front and Explorer 8.8 rear from the junk yard. By some kind of long arm lift that doesn't require the factory short arm frame mounts and start from there.
Do you know of any in-depth write ups for this route?

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post #45 of 150 Old 12-12-2017, 09:28 AM
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If you could find something like this and get the frame and axles.

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