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post #1 of 10 Old 11-26-2018, 07:29 PM Thread Starter
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Gremlins in the lights

2003 Rubicon. Back ground - All the lights were working - then they wern't ! I was working on a little home built trailer replacing the rear lights that I managed to break both at once. I have used this trailer on this jeep and on a Nissan PU I have, Lights & wiring on the trailer were new and all of them worked on both rigs. I had just put new rear clearance lights on & was testing every thing - it all worked then I noticed LR clearance wan not working - pulled the cover took bulb out - lights still hot cleaned it and put it back in and every thing worked- then the RR clearance did the same & cleaning it did not work - it took me a minute but I saw all the running lights had quit. Turn signals worked OK - on the Jeep and trailer . Checked the jeep - turn signals work but no running lights - except the head lights work fine. The jeep was sitting static - had a fresh Optima battery just off an Optima Charger charge. While it should not matter because I operating on Battery only the Alternator has also gone wonky - charging barely 12 V. I have a new one to put on just haven't got there yet.

It sure seemed like I had popped a fuse the way it just quit on the running lights. I looked at the fuse box under the hood. There are no fuses labeled lights or even close to it. I found one of those square box thingies - what ever they are called. One 40 amp EXT Lighting. I pulled it no change - headlight worked - no running lights. Tested the fuse continuity through it just fine.

Long winded but I wanted to be clear what happened.

Is there any other fuse block or inline running light fuses or fuseable links any where else???? Any one else run into this issue??

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post #2 of 10 Old 11-26-2018, 07:56 PM
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Yes, fuse block behind the glove box. Fuse 1 is the parking/tail lights.
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Outstanding - do I have to take the glove box out???

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Yes, fuse block behind the glove box. Fuse 1 is the parking/tail lights.
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No, you can look from below it when it is closed. Here is a shot of mine.

Taking the box off is very easy if you want. Just slide the retaining strap off through its slot & let the box open a little further & it comes right out, maybe pull it slightly towards you.
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Looking at it more closely, it does look like the box is removed in the photo so probably a better view that way.
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Great - Thanks - I found my headlamp and went out to poke around - took 1 screw out at the top of the strap and the box came right out. Pulled #1 and it was blown - problem solved- except I have bags of the full size spade fuses and nary a one of the mini spade.

Now I'll go dig up the hand book that came with the Jeep and see if there is a chart telling me what number goes where! Tomorrow I'll go to town and get a bag of minis

Really helped - Thanks LBM


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No, you can look from below it when it is closed. Here is a shot of mine.

Taking the box off is very easy if you want. Just slide the retaining strap off through its slot & let the box open a little further & it comes right out, maybe pull it slightly towards you.
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post #7 of 10 Old 11-27-2018, 12:35 PM
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If it is like my ’05, the strap slides off from the box end so you don’t have to even remove a screw but as long as you got it…

I’m not sure & can’t check mine right now but I think there is a fuse diagram on the back side of the glove box??
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Thanks - Not sure if it is because it is a Rubicon and (after I found the pile of books the owners manual was buried in) my owners manual showed the hook - But my 2003 does not have a hook - it is bolted through an eyelet to the body. Easy to get to and easy out - so easy as soon as the screw was out the box fell out. I didn't see it last night because my big ole Paw was covering it but there is a diagram on the right side. Kinda one of those "if it was a Snake it would of bit me things".

Learned things - glad it wasn't a Snake

Found out there was a spare fuse - #19. Pulled it out and stuck it in #1 - Poof -it worked!! Good to go for now.

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If it is like my í05, the strap slides off from the box end so you donít have to even remove a screw but as long as you got itÖ

Iím not sure & canít check mine right now but I think there is a fuse diagram on the back side of the glove box??
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Mine also has the bolt but (another snake hiding) the other end of the strap slides into a slot in the box. Slide the strap to your right & catch the falling box!

You can see the hanging strap to the far right in the photo I posted…

Anyway, good to hear you got it fixed.
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Nasty little Vipers!!! I actually tugged on the top and the bottom of the strap but it didn't come off and the photo's showed a hook on the top. Once you know the magic it's easy - after all these years still learning things!!!

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Mine also has the bolt but (another snake hiding) the other end of the strap slides into a slot in the box. Slide the strap to your right & catch the falling box!

You can see the hanging strap to the far right in the photo I posted…

Anyway, good to hear you got it fixed.
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