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post #1 of 17 Old 05-24-2020, 01:40 PM Thread Starter
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Front and Rear budget axle swap

2000 TJ...what are my best budget options for front and rear (disc) brakes. I know the 8.8 and D44 are options but I知 not sure what years/vehicles have similar width stock axles.


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Depends on tire size and what you use your Jeep for. I assume you have a D35 with 3.07 gears. Rear disc brakes do nothing except making changing them a little easier. You still need to regear for larger tires.

p.s. I wouldn't put a 8.8 in a Ford.

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Depends on tire size and what you use your Jeep for. I assume you have a D35 with 3.07 gears. Rear disc brakes do nothing except making changing them a little easier. You still need to regear for larger tires.

p.s. I wouldn't put a 8.8 in a Ford.

Yeah I知 going to regear when I move to 35s. Maybe 4.10s but I知 not sure exactly yet. I still wanna be able to easily run 70 on the road without the engine screaming. I definitely want to keep a good balance between on/off. If I知 gonna do a swap anyway I壇 rather switch to disc. I read late 90s early 2000s Ford Explorer is a good option but want to be sure. So you池e saying the 8.8 is a bad idea?


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Budget axle swap,

Oxymoron !

Sorry, that's the first thing I though of.
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Budget axle swap,

Oxymoron !

Sorry, that's the first thing I though of.

Thanks for the help. Lol Just meant I didn稚 wanna spend 5-7k per end for Dynatrac.


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I've been happy with my ECGS 8.8 for several years. I did a lot of mild to moderate off road in my last TJ and regeared and swapped it into my current TJ a few years back. Haven't wheeled as much as life got in the way but still like it.

I went with East Coast Gear Supply because at the time I purchased it the 8.8 with disc brakes and a Detroit Locker was the same as a locked D44 and reusing my drum brakes. I prefer disc brakes off road.

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I've been happy with my ECGS 8.8 for several years. I did a lot of mild to moderate off road in my last TJ and regeared and swapped it into my current TJ a few years back. Haven't wheeled as much as life got in the way but still like it.

I went with East Coast Gear Supply because at the time I purchased it the 8.8 with disc brakes and a Detroit Locker was the same as a locked D44 and reusing my drum brakes. I prefer disc brakes off road.

ECGS will help you spec it out however you want it.

Thanks I値l give them a look.


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For 35's your best bet will be a Super 35 kit or a D44 rear from another TJ, Can keep the D30, Chromy shafts front and rear, 4.88's depending on the transmission.
If you wheel hard expect some breakage, If you are easy and smart you can go most places

However, there is alot more involved in jumping to 35's, Steering, Brakes, Suspension.....
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mousejockey nailed it. why do you want to do an axle swap? just for disc brakes? not worth it, especially on a budget.

regear both axles
Aussie with alloy shafts for the D30
S35 for the D35.

good to go for 35" tires with minimal expense and effort plus the D35 has more clearance than the other axles discussed in this thread.

as to what is the optimal gear ration for your jeep with 35's, that depends on what transmission you have.
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mousejockey nailed it. why do you want to do an axle swap? just for disc brakes? not worth it, especially on a budget.

regear both axles
Aussie with alloy shafts for the D30
S35 for the D35.

good to go for 35" tires with minimal expense and effort plus the D35 has more clearance than the other axles discussed in this thread.

as to what is the optimal gear ration for your jeep with 35's, that depends on what transmission you have.

I知 not dead set on a swap other than wanting disc brakes but I can live without them. I was thinking the same thing as you on my front. What does the S35 kit consist of and are they still available? I know Superior used to make a kit but I thought they folded up? I知 not sure of the exact model of my tranny but it痴 a 4.0 automatic with 3.07.


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Budget wise
For 35's your best bet will be a Super 35 kit or a D44 rear from another TJ, Can keep the D30, Chromy shafts front and rear, 4.88's depending on the transmission.
If you wheel hard expect some breakage, If you are easy and smart you can go most places

However, there is alot more involved in jumping to 35's, Steering, Brakes, Suspension.....

I知 stacking parts now to address the other things you mentioned. Sounds like I should roll with your suggestion and ditch the disc brakes.


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I’m not dead set on a swap other than wanting disc brakes but I can live without them. I was thinking the same thing as you on my front. What does the S35 kit consist of and are they still available? I know Superior used to make a kit but I thought they folded up? I’m not sure of the exact model of my tranny but it’s an automatic with 3.07.
they are revolution gear and axle now and still have the same top notch reputation for only using the best materials and craftsmanship. but its basically 1541h 30 spline shaft and a full carrier locker.

here is is with an ARB locker at 4low parts
https://www.4lowparts.com/shop/super...ker-d35-30spl/

you have the 32RH 3 speed trans. it works very well with 4.11 gears and 35" tires. you could do 4.55 but it would be running a hair over 3k rpm at 70mph. not that the I6 has any issues with that high of RPM, but the general power/efficiency band is between 2400-2800. 4.11 puts you at 2755 rpm at 70mph.

for steering look at the ZJ v8 tie rod at a minimum and the currie setup as the top end.

for brakes check out black magic pads and centric rotors as a minimum, vanco big brake kit as the top end


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I’m not dead set on a swap other than wanting disc brakes but I can live without them. I was thinking the same thing as you on my front. What does the S35 kit consist of and are they still available? I know Superior used to make a kit but I thought they folded up? I’m not sure of the exact model of my tranny but it’s a 4.0 automatic with 3.07.


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4 cylinder TJ axles with 4.10 gears are much cheaper than a regear. I paid under $300 for both of mine. Then add the S35.
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Great information...thanks guys


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many jeep zjs are sitting in junk yards, with dana 35s, with disc brakes.
u can swap those brakes onto your current d35 cheap.
try the local pick and pull on half off day.
take the whole axle, brake hoses, lines, shafts, backing plates, ect...
then u end up with all kinds of spare d35 parts.

drums working properly will stop just as well as discs.
discs are easier to service, and work better if full of water or mud.

i would not pay to regear a dana 35 unless i had to.
u can get dana 35s in 3.73. 4.10 and rarely 4.56 from the factory.
look for a matched set from a 4cyl jeep used.
they are set up right, with spicer gears, and often cheap.
check fb market place, craigslist, and daveys jeeps.
check the local 4wd club.
check a local 4x4 message board.

dont swap and 8.8.
its never as cheap, or as good, as those that did it, make it sound.

for 33s or even 35s, it hard to beat a built d35.
thats free, u already own it.
u can make it live.

your dana 30 front is not a problem for 35s.
gear it,
or gear it, and lock it.
or if you like, gear it, lock it, add chromo shafts.

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