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post #1 of 52 Old 07-19-2019, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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Fox 2.0 vs. Savvy Fox 2.0 vs. Rancho RS5000X

It is time for shocks. I have read most everything posted that is relevant. What I have not found is a discussion about who reigns supreme between the three shocks I am considering. Fox 2.0, Savvy Fox 2.0, and Rancho RS5000X. The price difference is not a factor. I travel across the country in my Jeep and run light to moderate trails. My Jeep, although not super light, is not a porker but I don't have an actual weight. I have been trying to get it on the Longacre scale, but we had a flood/hurricane scare here and I haven't done it yet.

Any opinions based on actual usage of any two of these would be helpful.

I guess I should also ask why everyone abandoned OME. They still offer a shock that will fit my Jeep too.

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Regarding OME, from what I understand their Nitrocharger Sport shocks are notably stiffer than their old fare, excessively so tends to be the common verdict. Rather a shame as I quite like the old set I still run on my TJ and wanted to get some for my LJ as well, but they no longer offered them when I picked it up.

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Get a hold of Paul, Fullstack Motor Sports. He will set you up with what you want. He is a member here, too.
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Get a hold of Paul, Fullstack Motor Sports. He will set you up with what you want. He is a member here, too.
Second this, he goes by pcoplin on here. The ranchos are fine if all you're looking for is a generic shock not much different than the rest of the auto parts store shocks. If you're trying to go fast over rough terrain, have the necessary uptravel to do so, and want shocks tuned for your Jeep, fox 2.0s are a good option as are radflo, Kings, ADS, etc. There can be a huge difference between a well tuned shock and what you would get from the ranchos, or anything else really
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Thanks for that. I am actually leaning away from the custom tuned shocks. I travel a lot and the three shocks I have destroyed have been damaged while I was a considerable distance from home. I like the idea of something I can replace on the road fairly easily, as that has been my situation more than once. I am also not in the exotic shock club on my Jeep. I have not gone to coilovers or even outboarded yet.

I am well versed in shock technology and shock tuning. If I had my choice, I'd be running AFCO or Ohlins coilovers. Those are the what I know and love dearly. To be honest, I have a bit of trepidation about running a custom valved shock while living so far away from support.

I could be convinced otherwise, not ruling it out. Just factors that I have to consider.
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Just a note: None of my previous statements were any commentary on Full-Stack Motorsport's capabilities or talents. Their reputation is well known.

I just don't think that the variables in terrain, weight, etc. with a DD Jeep lend themselves to a real successful custom tune without constant support. I think to reap the benefits of the "custom" valving, I'd have to have at least 2 sets. One for when I'm loaded out on the road and one for lighter weight trail running.

I am primarily looking for a progressive shock that rides well and above all else, can control my axles and tires.
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Just a note: None of my previous statements were any commentary on Full-Stack Motorsport's capabilities or talents. Their reputation is well known.

I just don't think that the variables in terrain, weight, etc. with a DD Jeep lend themselves to a real successful custom tune without constant support. I think to reap the benefits of the "custom" valving, I'd have to have at least 2 sets. One for when I'm loaded out on the road and one for lighter weight trail running.

I am primarily looking for a progressive shock that rides well and above all else, can control my axles and tires.
I would call Paul and talk to him some, he's very knowledgeable and taught me pretty much everything I know related to shocks. He might change your mind on a few things. How exactly are you damaging shocks or what are you worried about? If you're suspension is setup up right there's not really too many ways to damage them considering there usually tucked away. As far as tuning, you can get a tune that works well for a variety of terrain. I have 2.0s up front and 2.5s in the back of mine. Tuned them at KOH this year for going fast over big whoops and even got a decent amount of air a few times with very nice landings. I've been running that tune since February around town, forest roads and wherever I go without much want to change it. Custom tune doesn't necessarily mean it only works for doing 60 over whoops, jumping it, etc.
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Damaged 2 shocks 2 years apart the same way. Knocked the reservoir clean off. In all my years of racing I had never seen it happen. I did it twice. Once to the left rear and once to the right front. The third was a bent shaft on the rear right. Never reversed on the trail. Have no clue what I hit that bent the shaft....bit I did. That one made it home, although it made it's presence known.

I'll probably call them up. I am a gear fanatic, maybe he'll talk me into it.
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Damaged 2 shocks 2 years apart the same way. Knocked the reservoir clean off. In all my years of racing I had never seen it happen. I did it twice. Once to the left rear and once to the right front. The third was a bent shaft on the rear right. Never reversed on the trail. Have no clue what I hit that bent the shaft....bit I did. That one made it home, although it made it's presence known.

I'll probably call them up. I am a gear fanatic, maybe he'll talk me into it.
What do you mean you knocked the resi off? As in your tire was rubbing it and pulled it off? Those should be mounted up out of the way most of the time. If your bumpstops aren't set correctly and the shock is being used as the bump that can bend the shaft. Shocks are a pretty worry free part besides rebuilding them when needed if you have them set up properly, shouldn't ever need to be concerned about breaking one besides a crash or something. And if you do break one, it's not like the Jeep's useless, pull two bolts, a few band clamps and keep moving with three shocks. Heck, I've driven on the street for probably a few hundred miles with just two fronts before, a little sketchy but certainly still driveable.

Definitely give him a call, he's a cool dude with a lot of experience

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Nope. Running the first of the Bilstein 5150's. Got a tree limb kicked up into the first one and probably the same for the second one. Not really a resilient design. Good in theory, not so much in application. if you look at them installed, the front reservoirs are hanging out exposed. The ones on the rear , being solidly mounted, are susceptible also. No rubbing on the suspension. No contact with the spring bucket even with the CV shaft and the axle rotated. The extended mounts on the G2 axle take care of that. Pretty good clearance on everything except the exhaust and that will be better next weekend.
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Jerry B really likes the Rancho rs5000X. They're my next shock choice on one of my Jeeps very soon.
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Sporting Fox 2.0 here. I bought them from Gerald. She's a mall crawler but with the retail economy such as it is, the obstacles are getting tougher. I had some rancho 9000s but I think the adjustment thing is just a gimmick and the plastic adjustment knobs need attention. I never felt like I had them dialed in,

THe fox are cool. When I get some work done mechanics are like "wow man! Fox! nice.".


TLDR; I like my Foxes. And my shocks are outstanding as well.
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WARNING. OPINION ONLY!! If money is no problem then a custom tuned shock is definitely the way to go. The reason Fox and others cost so much is because of their ability to be built and rebuilt just the way you want them. If you don't want a custom tuned shock then why buy it in the first place? If your 2nd highest priority (1st being ride quality) is the ability to get a replacement throughout the country then the Rancho is clearly the winner. Even if Fox was on the shelf most kits that offer them have them tuned for that kit. While the Rancho will be consistent. Sort of like McDonald's. Except the Rancho is good. I had the OME shocks on my Jeep. It felt like an empty 1 ton on the road. I never had them offroad. The first thing I did when I got the Jeep home was order the Rancho 5000x. Vastly better.
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