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post #1 of 11 Old 11-04-2017, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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D30 Tie Rod Flip Sleeves?

Black Magic no longer offers these on their website. Only Blaine's SB link mounts seem to be available. The weld-on type is listed on numerous sites but I recall reading a few posts a while back that suggested concern about the required 3/4" or so hole possibly weakening the knuckle to the point of potential failure.
Has anyone who has wheeled this style fairly hard had any damage/failure related to drilling out the knuckle?
Are there any suggestions for a better option that don't include me purchasing an $80 reamer?

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post #2 of 11 Old 11-04-2017, 08:49 PM
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Black Magic no longer offers these on their website. Only Blaine's SB link mounts seem to be available. The weld-on type is listed on numerous sites but I recall reading a few posts a while back that suggested concern about the required 3/4" or so hole possibly weakening the knuckle to the point of potential failure.
Has anyone who has wheeled this style fairly hard had any damage/failure related to drilling out the knuckle?
Are there any suggestions for a better option that don't include me purchasing an $80 reamer?
If you are worried about a 3/4" hole in the knuckle, don't do that Amazon piece. I can tell by looking at it that you have to use at least a 3/4" bit to get it to fit. For the Record, those were never our parts, they were sold by Ryan in the Co-op.

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The ones Ryan sold on the Co-op also required drilling the knuckle to 3/4" - I never got around to drilling it though so I can't say it does or does not cause any issues. I don't remember reading anything bad about it when I was researching it and I over research everything.
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For the Record, those were never our parts, they were sold by Ryan in the Co-op.
Apologies. Failed to differentiate that they were available through the co-op and not from Black Magic.
Not so much worried, just some general concern due to not being educated on the subject and the desire to build things to the best standard available to me.
I believe that (possibly) biffgnar did the mod with those co-op bushings. Maybe I'll PM him about how it all worked out for him. He seems to run his jeeps a bit on the potential damage side of things!
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Havent had an issue with mine
Curry Steering, Rubi axle up front but the knuckles are the same as the 30
And I do beat the bejesus out of it
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Havent had an issue with mine
Curry Steering, Rubi axle up front but the knuckles are the same as the 30
And I do beat the bejesus out of it
If ya don't mind, how long since you did the flip?
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Apologies. Failed to differentiate that they were available through the co-op and not from Black Magic.
Not so much worried, just some general concern due to not being educated on the subject and the desire to build things to the best standard available to me.
I believe that (possibly) biffgnar did the mod with those co-op bushings. Maybe I'll PM him about how it all worked out for him. He seems to run his jeeps a bit on the potential damage side of things!
Yep, I used the insert from the co-op on my old HP30 and on my current F9. Not even the slightest hint of a problem.
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Iíve got it on my HP30 with no issues. Been in place a few years.
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If ya don't mind, how long since you did the flip?
About 2 years ago did the flip and Mr Blains swaybar relocating brackets.
Since then Ive broken a front shaft, bent the curry tie rod (bent it back) had a ball joint pop loose (dimpled the knuckle to fix) and have chewed up the wheels enough that I just got a new set.
If you have an issue with the knuckle after drilling it out and welding in, then there was an issue before ya started.
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Havent had an issue with mine
Curry Steering, Rubi axle up front but the knuckles are the same as the 30
And I do beat the bejesus out of it
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Yep, I used the insert from the co-op on my old HP30 and on my current F9. Not even the slightest hint of a problem.
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Iíve got it on my HP30 with no issues. Been in place a few years.
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About 2 years ago did the flip and Mr Blains swaybar relocating brackets.
Since then Ive broken a front shaft, bent the curry tie rod (bent it back) had a ball joint pop loose (dimpled the knuckle to fix) and have chewed up the wheels enough that I just got a new set.
If you have an issue with the knuckle after drilling it out and welding in, then there was an issue before ya started.
Thanks for all the feedback. Definitely what I wanted to hear. Guess the next step is to order those SB brackets from Black Magic
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Does flipping the tie rod affect handling (steering geometry)?

Edit, n/m... It's flipped on the driver's side. Clear as mud now
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