8.8 Swap, the Cliffs-Notes - Page 8 - JeepForum.com
 5Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #106 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 09:53 AM
Deacon
Registered User
 
Deacon's Avatar
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lakehills, TX
Posts: 5,473
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay12 View Post
This thread is about rear axles...and you have continuously trashed the 8.8 as an option. You do realize that the front D30 would need to be addressed whether or not the rear is an 8.8 right? Your point about the front axle is moot in this conversation.
It is not, because people keep getting ahead of themselves. They approach the 8.8 because they think it's a "good" axle for "cheap" and then start dreaming big. Sure, done up right and with enough money dumped into it you could run 37's on it all day, and that would help a little bit to overcome the rock magnet nature of the center section, but that immediately tosses out anything being cheap or easy about the whole project in the first place. And at that point, the 8.8 really loses whatever advantages you thought it had.

Deacon is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #107 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 09:57 AM Thread Starter
SouthernGypsy
Registered User
 
SouthernGypsy's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sandtown
Posts: 2,796
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotURMailman View Post
From what I've seen of the mess involved trying to get proper track bar geometry when going to cross over steering with the WJ knuckles it's not for your average tinkerer.
I would think Savvy/Currie ultimate steering kit, maybe with the tie rod flip, with 17" Vanco brakes would be a much more feasible solution for the average person.
What is the other advantage to WJ knuckles? I think there's something, but I'm not remembering it...

I might be wrong (would have to go look again at their website which I don't have time to do right now) but I thought they Savvy/Curry Currectlync HD steering kit for the TJ came with them already flipped to get them higher as part of the design... Or maybe I've just seen some installed in pictures somewhere that owners had already done it and that made me think it did. Now you have me wondering because that setup is on my list of things to do... I have my long-term goals (6+ months), my medium term length (3-6 months), my short list (1-3 months), my very short list (less than 1 month), and my Where's the FedEx guy list (1 week+shipping time) and this lands somewhere between my Looking for the FedEx guy and my Very short list.


~

~ SouthernGypsy's Jeeps ~
2004 Jeep TJ Rubicon 4.0L/Automatic
1983 Jeep CJ-7 Limited 4.2L/5 Speed
SouthernGypsy is offline  
post #108 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:01 AM
Deacon
Registered User
 
Deacon's Avatar
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lakehills, TX
Posts: 5,473
The latter. Unless Savvy sells a version with the kit that I don't know about. I did it on mine and had no regrets. I definitely did it well after the initial Currie steering install.

Too many frowning stock tie rods out there in the rocks...
Deacon is offline  
 
post #109 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:14 AM
NotURMailman
Web Wheeler
 
NotURMailman's Avatar
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: 'Round Here
Posts: 8,221
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernGypsy View Post
I might be wrong (would have to go look again at their website which I don't have time to do right now) but I thought they Savvy/Curry Currectlync HD steering kit for the TJ came with them already flipped to get them higher as part of the design... Or maybe I've just seen some installed in pictures somewhere that owners had already done it and that made me think it did. Now you have me wondering because that setup is on my list of things to do... I have my long-term goals (6+ months), my medium term length (3-6 months), my short list (1-3 months), my very short list (less than 1 month), and my Where's the FedEx guy list (1 week+shipping time) and this lands somewhere between my Looking for the FedEx guy and my Very short list.


~



A steering linkage kit cannot be pre-flipped.
Flipping the tie rod on a TJ does nothing physically to the tie rod itself (other than maybe effecting the length adjustment).
The flip involves reversing the taper in the knuckle to come in from the top rather than up from the bottom.






.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
equipped... And loving it!

I drive on the right side, what's wrong with you?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon View Post
It's difficult to take you seriously. It's like you're an easily perturbed autistic teenager who's drunk typing the whole time.
NotURMailman is offline  
post #110 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:19 AM Thread Starter
SouthernGypsy
Registered User
 
SouthernGypsy's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sandtown
Posts: 2,796
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon View Post
The latter. Unless Savvy sells a version with the kit that I don't know about. I did it on mine and had no regrets. I definitely did it well after the initial Currie steering install.

Too many frowning stock tie rods out there in the rocks...

Likely what I will do as well

~

~ SouthernGypsy's Jeeps ~
2004 Jeep TJ Rubicon 4.0L/Automatic
1983 Jeep CJ-7 Limited 4.2L/5 Speed
SouthernGypsy is offline  
post #111 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
SouthernGypsy
Registered User
 
SouthernGypsy's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sandtown
Posts: 2,796
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotURMailman View Post
A steering linkage kit cannot be pre-flipped.
Flipping the tie rod on a TJ does nothing physically to the tie rod itself (other than maybe effecting the length adjustment).
The flip involves reversing the taper in the knuckle to come in from the top rather than up from the bottom.

.

No but I could easily see Currie offering a kit with maybe a tapered insert sleeve and instructions to make it easier. Maybe would make a nice kit to offer as an add-on.

~

~ SouthernGypsy's Jeeps ~
2004 Jeep TJ Rubicon 4.0L/Automatic
1983 Jeep CJ-7 Limited 4.2L/5 Speed
SouthernGypsy is offline  
post #112 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:22 AM
biffgnar
Moderator
 
biffgnar's Avatar
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 26,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon View Post
Surely everyone has a drill to open up the knuckle for the insert...
Slow and steady though on this one with lubrication. I screwed up one of the 3 or 4 I've done and I think work hardened the arm. Getting a simple hole drilled became a pretty major undertaking.
biffgnar is offline  
post #113 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:24 AM
grininmonkey
Registered User
 
grininmonkey's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Lake City
Posts: 2,051
http://www.shop.blackmagicbrakes.com...K-BRACKETS.htm

I think that is the sway bar mount relocation kit referred to earlier for the job?
grininmonkey is offline  
post #114 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:26 AM
biffgnar
Moderator
 
biffgnar's Avatar
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 26,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernGypsy View Post
No but I could easily see Currie offering the kit with maybe a sleeve and instructions or maybe even some ready to go parts to make it easier.

~
AFAIK Currie had nothing to do with the idea of flipping the tie rod. The people who did invent it, and who don't sell Currie steering, do sell the inserts (or they can tell you where to get them) and the swaybar link brackets.
biffgnar is offline  
post #115 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:26 AM
biffgnar
Moderator
 
biffgnar's Avatar
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 26,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by grininmonkey View Post
http://www.shop.blackmagicbrakes.com...K-BRACKETS.htm

I think that is the sway bar mount relocation kit referred to earlier for the job?
You are correct
biffgnar is offline  
post #116 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:28 AM
NotURMailman
Web Wheeler
 
NotURMailman's Avatar
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: 'Round Here
Posts: 8,221
You can buy a flip kit, just not from Currie.
You can get raised sway bar link brackets from Blaine on the Black Magic Brakes web site.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
equipped... And loving it!

I drive on the right side, what's wrong with you?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon View Post
It's difficult to take you seriously. It's like you're an easily perturbed autistic teenager who's drunk typing the whole time.
NotURMailman is offline  
post #117 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:30 AM Thread Starter
SouthernGypsy
Registered User
 
SouthernGypsy's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sandtown
Posts: 2,796
Well, I admit it, now I'm confused... To do the flip do you have to use the Sway Bar mount relocation brackets (and I have the Anti-Rock if it matters)?

~

~ SouthernGypsy's Jeeps ~
2004 Jeep TJ Rubicon 4.0L/Automatic
1983 Jeep CJ-7 Limited 4.2L/5 Speed
SouthernGypsy is offline  
post #118 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:32 AM
grininmonkey
Registered User
 
grininmonkey's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Lake City
Posts: 2,051
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernGypsy View Post
Well, I admit it, now I'm confused... To do the flip do you have to use the Sway Bar mount relocation brackets (and I have the Anti-Rock if it matters)?

~
Will have to shorten the links some...
grininmonkey is offline  
post #119 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:34 AM
grininmonkey
Registered User
 
grininmonkey's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Lake City
Posts: 2,051
Cheapest insert I could find so far and as a single insert...

http://www.ecrater.com/p/19334827/je...d=115931170339
grininmonkey is offline  
post #120 of 145 Old 05-26-2016, 10:37 AM
NotURMailman
Web Wheeler
 
NotURMailman's Avatar
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: 'Round Here
Posts: 8,221
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernGypsy View Post
Well, I admit it, now I'm confused... To do the flip do you have to use the Sway Bar mount relocation brackets (and I have the Anti-Rock if it matters)?

~



Yes.
When you raise the tie rod by flipping it, it will be trying to occupy space that currently belongs to the stock sway bar brackets on the axle. Those brackets from BMB fixes that problem. You just have to shorten your AR links to mount up to the higher mounts.




.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
equipped... And loving it!

I drive on the right side, what's wrong with you?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon View Post
It's difficult to take you seriously. It's like you're an easily perturbed autistic teenager who's drunk typing the whole time.
NotURMailman is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome