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post #46 of 98 Old 12-19-2017, 01:16 PM
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I would also stress the TJ is EXTREMELY sensitive to tire balance. For that reason, I would strongly recommend you stick with tried and true tire brands and skip the "discount" brands. Just my two cents. (And also find a tire installer who knows what they are doing when it comes to installation and balancing.)

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I say save your money and buy the lift you really want, buy once and buy it right. I pieced mine together because I was poor, I started with spacers. Then I bought new shocks and settled for 2.5 in front and 2 in the rear with adjustable front track bar. Then I bought mml and bbl and went to 33s. Now that I make a hell of a lot more money than when I started modding I would like to go to either savvy 4 or MC 3.5 springs but now I need to buy new shocks SYE and DL. Oh yeah somewhere in all this mess I did get 8 double adjustable MC arms and Mc rear track bar but if I could do it all over again I would just save and buy a savvy or MC complete kit.

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I have a clayton front track bar, metalcloak rear bar, and a set of H&R 1" springs that I've been trying to sell locally. Not sure how much shipping would run, although the bars wouldn't be needed with those springs.

If I was to build another TJ that was a DD/weekend warrior, I'm not sure I would do a suspension lift at all. Some highline front fenders, open up the rear, and a 1" body lift and tummy tuck. Put the suspension lift money into a regear and steering upgrade and call it good. That would be a pretty capable all-arounder on 35s for a casual user who wanted a nice looking rig.
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One recommendation I'll make for the wheel is to stick with a 15x8 size for 33x12.50 or 35x12.50 tires. 10" is a little too wide and that added width makes it harder for an aired-down tire to stay seated against two edges 10" apart vs. only 8 or 8.5" apart. 3.75 to 4" of backspacing is about right. I'd also stick with aluminum. Steel wheels are just too easy to dent and bend, personal experience there.

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If I was to build another TJ that was a DD/weekend warrior, I'm not sure I would do a suspension lift at all. Some highline front fenders, open up the rear, and a 1" body lift and tummy tuck. Put the suspension lift money into a regear and steering upgrade and call it good. That would be a pretty capable all-arounder on 35s for a casual user who wanted a nice looking rig.
All depends where you wheel. Even with a nice tummy tuck that sort of setup probably only be approx. 16" under the belly. Most places I've wheeled if it requires 35s more belly clearance than that makes a real difference.

There's also the question of how much uptravel a setup like that what have. Yes, highlines help but still probably not much more than OEM as the bigger tires offset the highline. Depends whether uptravel important based on wheeling or not.
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Boogieman: I see there are numerous options for the Zone 4.25" combo kit. What (if any) options did you put on your TJ?

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Front sway bar disconnects, steering stabilizer, hydro shocks and I always use 4" front springs to level it out a bit. It still sits slightly higher in the rear. I NEVER ride people in the back or I wouldn't do that.
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I'd rather knock myself unconscious, cut a finger off, poke my eye out with a sharp stick or be forced to go back to work than install anything made by Rusty's.
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I'm pretty set on the Zone 4.25 with MC track bar. Still debating on Hydro vs Nitro shocks, I'd pick Hydro but my only concern is that they'll wear out much faster. Maybe @TheBoogieman could pitch in.
Definitely Falken at3w 33x12.5r15 with 15x8, giving me room to air down a bit. Have heard nothing but good things about those tires.

After what you guys said, I'd like to go with an aluminum wheel but I'm torn between two. Please help me choose.
I'm leaning towards these: https://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/P...n=PXA7069-5865

But I love the classic look of these, and I like that they come clear-coated: https://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/A...pn=W/PAR625865

I'd like your opinion on what would look best with my color combo



I'm afraid the "classic" look of the Outlaw IIs will look weird with my LED lights and all that

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I'm pretty set on the Zone 4.25 with MC track bar. Still debating on Hydro vs Nitro shocks, I'd pick Hydro but my only concern is that they'll wear out much faster. Maybe @TheBoogieman could pitch in.
Definitely Falken at3w 33x12.5r15 with 15x8, giving me room to air down a bit. Have heard nothing but good things about those tires.

After what you guys said, I'd like to go with an aluminum wheel but I'm torn between two. Please help me choose.
I'm leaning towards these: https://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/P...n=PXA7069-5865

But I love the classic look of these, and I like that they come clear-coated: https://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/A...pn=W/PAR625865

I'd like your opinion on what would look best with my color combo
They will both last the same. The hydro shocks have a smoother on road ride. I like the black wheels better, but used stock and charcoal gray wheels on my white Jeeps. I had the outlaw II wheels on one of my khaki Jeeps.
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They will both last the same. The hydro shocks have a smoother on road ride. I like the black wheels better, but used stock and charcoal gray wheels on my white Jeeps. I had the outlaw II wheels on one of my khaki Jeeps.
Those 5-spoke charcoal ones are sharp!! I may end up choosing those, price isn't so bad either: https://www.extremeterrain.com/mammo...8-J100612.html
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I'm pretty set on the Zone 4.25 with MC track bar. Still debating on Hydro vs Nitro shocks, I'd pick Hydro but my only concern is that they'll wear out much faster. Maybe @TheBoogieman could pitch in.
As Boogie said, they'll last the same amount of time, theoretically.

I currently have the Zone Nitros on my LJ (found a good deal when I needed new shocks, couldn't pass it up). Previous shocks were el cheapo white hydro shocks. The nitros work well for my heavier LJ, but I can see where people would prefer hydro shocks for a TJ.
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Those 5-spoke charcoal ones are sharp!! I may end up choosing those, price isn't so bad either: https://www.extremeterrain.com/mammo...8-J100612.html
Those are fantastic! Although I do like the classic look for the Outlaw's, I think they look a bit dated today. The pro comp's are nice as well.
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They will both last the same. The hydro shocks have a smoother on road ride. I like the black wheels better, but used stock and charcoal gray wheels on my white Jeeps. I had the outlaw II wheels on one of my khaki Jeeps.
Is that a bar code I see on the hood of one of your Jeeps?

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One recommendation I'll make for the wheel is to stick with a 15x8 size for 33x12.50 or 35x12.50 tires. 10" is a little too wide and that added width makes it harder for an aired-down tire to stay seated against two edges 10" apart vs. only 8 or 8.5" apart. 3.75 to 4" of backspacing is about right. I'd also stick with aluminum. Steel wheels are just too easy to dent and bend, personal experience there.
You'll have more options in a 17x8(.5) for 35s.

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Is that a bar code I see on the hood of one of your Jeeps?
Might as well put the barcode on if you're gunna be selling it!

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