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post #1 of 41 Old 01-29-2020, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
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2006 LJ - Best suspension kit these days?

It's been a few years since I've posted anything on this forum. New baby, job, life, etc. But I still have my same old 2006 LJ Rubicon. Thirteen years ago I installed a Rubicon Express 3.5" Superflex lift hit. I went with the stock shorty lower control arms. I'm ready to upgrade the entire suspension. I want to go with a long arm kit with same 3.5" lift. I know Rubicon Express filed for bankruptcy and 4WP bought them. I've been to local 4WP for service and they are not helpful. It seems like everyone there is just punching the time clock waiting to get off. I want a good system. What's everyone out there doing these days? Is a custom lift at a local fabricator the way to go? If so, anyone in Houston you'd recommend?

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post #2 of 41 Old 01-29-2020, 09:56 AM
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best kit out there? Savvy mid arm with fox remote resi 11/12" travel shocks.

blows the RE stuff and most other long arm kits out of the water in performance and ride


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"BEST" kit depends on what you use your Jeep for. EXPENSIVE SAVVY/CURRIE is a waste of money IMO if you're not hardcore.
p.s. If you think a LA kit is best, you need to update your email from AOL and get rid of that cassette player. (JK'ing) I love my 8 track tape player.
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Wow, I am behind the times. What's the issue with LA kits?
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Wow, I am behind the times. What's the issue with LA kits?
if designed correctly they can be very useful. sadly, over 90% of the ones on the market are designed for ease of install, manufacturing costs, and packaging rather than suspension geometry and breakover angle. the result is a jeep that climbs poorly, does a lot of rock humping, tons of squat and dive, etc.

if you know what you're doing with suspension design and fab work you can create a very capable system that doesnt have a lot of drawbacks, thats what savvy has done. they had the time and knowledge to build, test, and rebuild until they got a very high performing setup that has been proven in some of the harshest off-road conditions
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if designed correctly they can be very useful. sadly, over 90% of the ones on the market are designed for ease of install, manufacturing costs, and packaging rather than suspension geometry and breakover angle. the result is a jeep that climbs poorly, does a lot of rock humping, tons of squat and dive, etc.

if you know what you're doing with suspension design and fab work you can create a very capable system that doesnt have a lot of drawbacks, thats what savvy has done. they had the time and knowledge to build, test, and rebuild until they got a very high performing setup that has been proven in some of the harshest off-road conditions
you would love to be a fly on the wall when the LA vs SA comes up, up here. Guys swear by their LA kits on their tjs/ljs. I am basically the only one running SAs on 3-5" lifts. They ALL claim better on road handling, smoother ride, better off road (as the SAs swing the axle, rather than Up/down like a LA)...blah blah. I can follow the same guys with LAs and in most cases, out wheel them in my SAs. My LJ drives like a dream on SAs
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part of the problem with our hobby, people have too much pride in their decisions so they can't possibly be wrong on a major purchase. that plus the whole "I've been doing it like this for 20+ years" nonsense. correct, you've been doing it wrong for 20+ years
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part of the problem with our hobby, people have too much pride in their decisions so they can't possibly be wrong on a major purchase. that plus the whole "I've been doing it like this for 20+ years" nonsense. correct, you've been doing it wrong for 20+ years
pretty much!

The same guys saying this, are the same guys we are winching/pulling off rocks because their LAs got caught on on obstacle. That same obstacle, my SAs never it came close to touching.

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if designed correctly they can be very useful. sadly, over 90% of the ones on the market are designed for ease of install, manufacturing costs, and packaging rather than suspension geometry and breakover angle. the result is a jeep that climbs poorly, does a lot of rock humping, tons of squat and dive, etc.

if you know what you're doing with suspension design and fab work you can create a very capable system that doesnt have a lot of drawbacks, thats what savvy has done. they had the time and knowledge to build, test, and rebuild until they got a very high performing setup that has been proven in some of the harshest off-road conditions
This all makes sense to me. I looked at the Savvy mid-arm, full suspension system on their website. For $3,800 in parts only, it may be overkill for what I do, but dang it's nice. I just spent for days at Big Bend National Park. My Jeep with its SAs did fine on the rocks (Black Gap Road), but the hours and hours of drive on washboard roads was almost unbearable. Screws holding my air intake system and batter tie downs were vibrated loose, along with other things I still can't find but hear clanging around under the front end. I need a solution. What I have is not it.
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Looking forward to KOH next week and all the rigs in just about all the classes running the rocks and bombing the desert with their short arms. SMH. You guys crack me up.

REs LA kit with bad geometry does not equal SA are better the LAs.
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Looking forward to KOH next week and all the rigs in just about all the classes running the rocks and bombing the desert with their short arms. SMH. You guys crack me up.

REs LA kit with bad geometry does not equal SA are better the LAs.
no one said all long arm setups are garbage, just most of them. hahaha

many bolt on kits have been put into the 4 link calculators to show how poorly designed they are.


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My Jeep with its SAs did fine on the rocks (Black Gap Road), but the hours and hours of drive on washboard roads was almost unbearable.
You need different shocks and to possibly revisit your offroad tire pressure setting.
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You need different shocks and to possibly revisit your offroad tire pressure setting.
I agree with this statment...

Although some buddies up here swear the ride on washboards is night and day difference between a SA vs LA,

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Looking forward to KOH next week and all the rigs in just about all the classes running the rocks and bombing the desert with their short arms. SMH. You guys crack me up.

REs LA kit with bad geometry does not equal SA are better the LAs.
KOH rig with long arms does not equal long arms are better than short arms.
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