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post #1 of 16 Old 06-11-2019, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
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2.5 inch lift no OME

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So I am looking for a budget and trail friendly lift. I think I am going to do a 1inch body lift and a 2 inch suspension lift. I will be putting on some 2017 Rubicon takeoffs. With the g2 spacer/adapters.

The body lift I am looking at is by terraflex and is about $150. I know that rough country and some others are cheaper I just prefer something a little better since it is not much more. (About 20 more than the rc)

For the suspension lift I am trying to decide. My budget will not be in the market, anytime soon, for the OME. I want it but can't afford. However my suspension is shot and my springs are saggy so it is time for suspension. If I am doing suspension, I might as well do the lift at the same time.

So, without going the pricey route I am trying to find a decent and affordable kit. Ideally the kit would not have shocks because I do want to get rancho 5000 or bilstein 5100 shocks.

If you have a recommendation I would love to hear it. Buy please don't tease me with OME as I can't afford it.

Also if I should go there kit-less route, what exactly do I need besides shocks, coils, and trackbars.

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post #2 of 16 Old 06-12-2019, 12:38 AM
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Most basic 2" lifts you're going to find that aren't just a set of spacers will run in the neighbourhood of $500. Once you add on a set of Rancho or Bilstein shocks, you're pretty close to the cost of the OME lift you profess to really want anyway. Food for thought.

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ProComp springs are under $100 a pair. ProComp shocks suck, but their springs are very good. Zone Offroad BL is as good as any and costs $94. I've used them on many of my Jeeps. Rancho RS5000X shocks are $200. That's under $500 for everything.

https://www.morris4x4center.com/zone...gler-tj-438836

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CCFBV4...wranglerorg-20

p.s. You don't need track bars for a 2" lift. The axle only shifts around 1/2" or so.
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I have had teraflex 3" springs for many years and I have been happy with them. I think I have their body lift and I do their 1" spacer (up front). I have had them all for over 10 years (not sure if things have changed) and I am happy with them. I also have their belly up but it is thinner than it probably should be.

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I just changed from Bilsteins to the Rancho 5000x and they are much better and cost a pretty good bit less.

The Bilsteins might work better offroad. They did pretty good on big hits like dropping off a 1 foot ledge but rattle your fillings out of your teeth if you hit a small bump in the road.

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I just changed from Bilsteins to the Rancho 5000x and they are much better and cost a pretty good bit less.



The Bilsteins might work better offroad. They did pretty good on big hits like dropping off a 1 foot ledge but rattle your fillings out of your teeth if you hit a small bump in the road.
Thanks for pointing that out. I like the idea of the bilsteins but my wallet and my butt likes the idea of the ranchos.

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I just changed from Bilsteins to the Rancho 5000x and they are much better and cost a pretty good bit less.

The Bilsteins might work better offroad. They did pretty good on big hits like dropping off a 1 foot ledge but rattle your fillings out of your teeth if you hit a small bump in the road.
Bilstein's are the equivalent of RCs N3 shocks. Great hitting a speed bump at 20 mph and crap when running over a quarter.

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ProComp springs are under $100 a pair. ProComp shocks suck, but their springs are very good. Zone Offroad BL is as good as any and costs $94. I've used them on many of my Jeeps. Rancho RS5000X shocks are $200. That's under $500 for everything.

https://www.morris4x4center.com/zone...gler-tj-438836

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CCFBV4...wranglerorg-20

p.s. You don't need track bars for a 2" lift. The axle only shifts around 1/2" or so.
Thanks boogieman. I think you have helped me before and everything had always been spot on. This sounds like the setup I may use.

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So I hope I don't start some war of disagreement but I called over to 4wp to talk about their price matching. The guy there told me that Rancho shocks and pro comps are the same shock. Really?? I did some research online and it looks like they are owned by the same company, made in the same factory and even on the same line. It looks like the main difference is the valving.

Is there a reason I should get ranchos over pro comps other than a brand name?

About a $60 difference but I don't like paying $60 for a brand name.
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post #10 of 16 Old 06-12-2019, 08:43 PM
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Check our BDS Suspension

Hi There,


I am running BDS 2" springs and Bilstein shocks and really like the set up, I just got the springs from this kit.


http://bds-suspension.com/product?ma...5&yr=1997-2002

Since I only have a soft top I got about 2.5" out of the springs.

They ride really well and have not sagged after 10 years or so, would be happy to buy again.

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post #11 of 16 Old 06-13-2019, 01:51 AM
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The parent company of Rancho is Tenneco

ProComp shocks are made by Tenneco

That does not mean they are valved the same as mentioned.

For a budget friendly low pressure gas shock, the top of the line ProComp 9000 series have been good. Stay away from their less expensive 1000 or 3000 series.

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So I hope I don't start some war of disagreement but I called over to 4wp to talk about their price matching. The guy there told me that Rancho shocks and pro comps are the same shock. Really?? I did some research online and it looks like they are owned by the same company, made in the same factory and even on the same line. It looks like the main difference is the valving.

Is there a reason I should get ranchos over pro comps other than a brand name?

About a $60 difference but I don't like paying $60 for a brand name.

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For a budget friendly low pressure gas shock, the top of the line ProComp 9000 series have been good. Stay away from their less expensive 1000 or 3000 series.
Do you have any actual TJ reviews on them? "budget friendly" and "top of the line" don't usually go together. Kind of like saying you have a "limited" All you can eat buffet. I need new shocks and was going for Jerry B's advice on Rancho RS5000x shocks,(I agree with his opinion on Rustys) but a lot of people with lighter Jeeps say they're stiff. Damn opinions! I have never found another street friendly shock like the Zone hydro (Jerry B says they're too soft) . Why they stopped making them and only have the stiffer nitro now is a mystery to me.

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Perhaps I should have said "relatively" budget friendly. Didn't mean to imply that these are super-cheap shocks, but compared to a monotube, for example, they are much easier on the wallet.

I like the Ranchos too but they are more money. If you'd like to try a set of the Procomps let me know. If you think they are too stiff return them and I'll cover the shipping so you won't be out of pocket at all.

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Do you have any actual TJ reviews on them? "budget friendly" and "top of the line" don't usually go together. Kind of like saying you have a "limited" All you can eat buffet. I need new shocks and was going for Jerry B's advice on Rancho RS5000x shocks,(I agree with his opinion on Rustys) but a lot of people with lighter Jeeps say they're stiff. Damn opinions! I have never found another street friendly shock like the Zone hydro (Jerry B says they're too soft) . Why they stopped making them and only have the stiffer nitro now is a mystery to me.
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What is all shot in your suspension? Any worn bushings?

The OME kit is only coils, shocks, bump stop extensions, and a rear track bar bracket.

You can buy just the OME coils for about $350 for all 4. Then add whatever shocks. Make your bump stop extensions using spacers. Order the OME TB bracket for $20.
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post #15 of 16 Old 06-14-2019, 07:21 AM
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What is your budget?
I know you're funds are limited and you said no to OME but I saw an OME tj lift on Facebook market here for 650.00

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