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post #1 of 41 Old 08-03-2020, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
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Where are the rear tie downs located on a CJ5

I have a bikini hop that needs tie downs in the rear.

I was wondering where on the tear corner the tie downs are usually located

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post #2 of 41 Old 08-03-2020, 06:57 PM
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I would put them slightly out from straight back when the top is on. That or in the center of the bend around the back corners.

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On top of the rear "rail" of the tub. The angle can be straight back or slightly outward to take up any sagging.

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On the top rail of the tub at the taillights. This is a 1980 tub if that matters.
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Mine are centered over the curve. You want a little side tug against the opposite strap. I wore a uniform for almost 30 years and one thing I learned was when you erect a tent you want more side tension and less linear tension on your lines. I've heard more than once that a CJ is a tractor with a tent pitched on it.

Consider putting a strap buckle in each strap. It makes removal and installation easier. This is important when the afternoon thunderstorm occurs and you are trying to figure out how in the heck to thread the strap while you are getting wet.

Tractor Supply sells chromed footman loops for $1.50.
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Centered over the rear curve
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Now how to figure out the proper way of putting a threaded insert into fiberglass.
First time was a disaster...


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Now how to figure out the proper way of putting a threaded insert into fiberglass.
First time was a disaster...

Drill hole, fill with 2 part epoxy and then insert the insert?
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Now how to figure out the proper way of putting a threaded insert into fiberglass.
First time was a disaster...

Do you have the “rivet gun” version or the “long handle, bolt cutter” version? The former has a tendency for sideways torque which hasn’t been helpful in past projects.

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Along with the 2 part epoxy,

You might coat a correct size bolt with anti-seize and run it "even" with the bottom of the insert. After it cures, screw the bolt out.

This is much EZer than drilling the center of the insert, then finding a tap to clean up the internal threads.

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I like to put a washer on the backside of the insert to give it something to grab to.


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Do you have the “rivet gun” version or the “long handle, bolt cutter” version? The former has a tendency for sideways torque which hasn’t been helpful in past projects.
That will be another discussion. I need to shore up the visor mounts as the fiberglass is thin and starting to pull out.
I want to put in some of those threaded pop rivets in there.

I have both types of riveters, one that looks like a bolt cutter and one that looks like a pop riveter but it is hydraulic operated.

What I am unsure is the thickness of the fiberglas and getting the right insert length is important.

The area where the footman loop is attached is solid fiberglass. So I think a threaded or splined insert should be used there.


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That will be another discussion. I need to shore up the visor mounts as the fiberglass is thin and starting to pull out.
I want to put in some of those threaded pop rivets in there.

I have both types of riveters, one that looks like a bolt cutter and one that looks like a pop riveter but it is hydraulic operated.

What I am unsure is the thickness of the fiberglas and getting the right insert length is important.

The area where the footman loop is attached is solid fiberglass. So I think a threaded or splined insert should be used there.

Sorry John, I meant the type of “nut insert” tool. Is there any way to add some more resin to build up or shore up the thinning fiberglass? If not I would suggest the epoxy as well. Just to give it some more material.

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Sorry John, I meant the type of “nut insert” tool. Is there any way to add some more resin to build up or shore up the thinning fiberglass? If not I would suggest the epoxy as well. Just to give it some more material.
I've been reading some boat forums about mounting hardware in fiberglass hulls.

Seems like, "Need a #8 screw mount in a hull?"
"Drill a 1/2" hole and fill it with epoxy, Then put your #8 insert in the epoxy. But make sure you countersink the hole so you don't chip the gel coat."

Not sure how to do that on a vertical surface.

The rails on the CJ are already solid epoxy. Might need to do that with the windshield.


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