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post #1 of 25 Old 10-14-2020, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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Cj Wheel Spacers - To Space or Not To

I was going to put 1.25" spacers on my '81 CJ-7, but my mechanic told me they are unsafe and refused to do so. So I started down the rabbit hole of google and have read a million pros and cons. What's everyone's thought process here?

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A cheap set came with Bagusjeep many years ago and have not given any problems. The width of the track obviously increases and you would be best advised to extend the wheelarches to meet local regulations and avoid flicking stones on to windshields.

They are generally advertised as being from "aircraft aluminium" but this only refers to the metal and not the manufacturing process. The cast ones tend to be weaker and may also come with unmarked generic black bolts, no surprise a professional mechanic would shy away from them, they carry liability.

In general the forces applied are well within the CJs engineering.

If you want quality I understand Spidertrax make better quality ones.
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Is that a picture of one of your CJ's Bagusjeep?

If you have a side view, I'd like to see how those flares look.


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I had 2 inch one on my 1980 to stop rubbing with the 12.5 inch wide tires and never had any problems with them check the torq every so often I was told due to them loosing but I never had that problem either. Then I found a set of wide track axles 4.10 gears and don't need them any more. Also I had a dana 44 rear with them I would not run them unless I had a 44 axle or 1 piece axles on the amc20 just because the 2 piece is weaker and add bigger tires and spacers not a good combination in my mind. Handling seem about the same.
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I avoid spacers, However wheel specs come into play and if the tire is moved to far
outward, the load on the outer bearing is increased and will wear quickly,
also steering geometry changes. If a quality spacer is used and wheel offset
and backspacing puts the tire close to stock it is acceptable. spacers are used
to put newer wheels on older vehicles,
some Porsches came from the factory with spacers.

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I was going to put 1.25" spacers on my '81 CJ-7, but my mechanic told me they are unsafe and refused to do so. So I started down the rabbit hole of google and have read a million pros and cons. What's everyone's thought process here?
As long as you get good ones they are safe. I've had them on my TJ for five years now with no problems also had adapters for a Corvette and never had a problem. In the old days they were made cheaply. Buy them from a reputable dealer and get hub centric, with grade 8 bolts and use the correct lock tight to bolt them to the hub. Its no different from putting aluminum wheels on and many of the high performance custom cars use them to get the wheel spacing just right.....

Only problem I ever had with them was at the tire shop, they won't work with them as they can be a liability if you didn't put them on right and they change your tires....
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Is that a picture of one of your CJ's Bagusjeep?

If you have a side view, I'd like to see how those flares look.
Here are some pics of the flares. This style came with Bagusjeep about 14 years ago, with the spacers they were really needed. I ripped them up on trails and put on a new identical set about 5 years ago, the local parts pusher had them for an early Wrangler and they cost $125. They are not the best quality but do the job.

Wheel spacer below. They perform fine, but quality is dubious. The net effect of the low offset wheels and the spacers is that the tyres are well out past the usual position. It feels well planted in every situation.
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For the Guys with spacers. My lug studs dont come all the way through the Lug Nut. Where are you getting the longer studs? Do You have a part number ?
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I run 1.5in spacers, hub centric for the past 2k miles. I DD mine and reason I put them on is because I flopped and wanted a touch of stability on the trails. Also a nice addition because I have near 0 offest beadlocks.

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My wife runs spacers on her Z3 M series with no issues (and we push it a bit). I would have no issues running a set on a CJ.
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Myself, and plenty of others with the same car as me, have used them for thousands and thousands of miles with zero issues.


Pros:
- easier than getting new wheels
- opens up more wheel options
- much easier to replace a wheel stud should you break one during a wheel change


Neutral:
- The added strain on the suspension is no different from the equivalent offset wheels


Cons:
- more nuts to torque when you first put them on, or do a brake job

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Here are some pics of the flares. This style came with Bagusjeep about 14 years ago, with the spacers they were really needed. I ripped them up on trails and put on a new identical set about 5 years ago, the local parts pusher had them for an early Wrangler and they cost $125. They are not the best quality but do the job.

Wheel spacer below. They perform fine, but quality is dubious. The net effect of the low offset wheels and the spacers is that the tyres are well out past the usual position. It feels well planted in every situation.

Those are YJ flares, as they have that little step piece after the front wheel area. TJ flares would be the same, only without the step piece.


As for spacers, I have had mine on for years, only 1 time I had issues - Hint: RETORQUE AND USE RED LOCTITE AS MFR SAYS! I didn't retorque, and I used old Loctite.

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Those are YJ flares, as they have that little step piece after the front wheel area. TJ flares would be the same, only without the step piece.


As for spacers, I have had mine on for years, only 1 time I had issues - Hint: RETORQUE AND USE RED LOCTITE AS MFR SAYS! I didn't retorque, and I used old Loctite.
Yep, YJ flares they are.

They are just the right width to cover the tyres and IMHO make that wide track doable. It also allows a decent turning circle as the tyres are so far from the springs. They are only 31x10.5x15 tyres.
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For the Guys with spacers. My lug studs dont come all the way through the Lug Nut. Where are you getting the longer studs? Do You have a part number ?
What size thread are they? How long do you need them? I just ask as mine on the spacer are metric, which causes some confusion with Jeep lug nuts being SAE.

You will need a stud extractor or two nuts to wind them out of the spacer. New studs are available at your hardware store, auto parts store or McMaster Carr online is a great source of hardware for Jeeps. Just check the thread first.

If you are referring to the back of the spacer and the original wheel studs coming through the spacer, mine are recessed and the wheel studs fit just fine.

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Why not wheels with correct backspacing?

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