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post #1 of 6 Old 06-21-2021, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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What am I missing

I have a 1973 CJ5 with power steering. The picture is how the PO had it setup. The steering wheel was welded on to the upper shaft. So I bought a upper shaft and want to go back with original type steering wheel. I want to put it back with the original horn connections down the column. I have other picks if needed. Thanks for any help.

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post #2 of 6 Old 06-22-2021, 12:04 AM
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I only have a diagram of the 1974 column, which had moved on from the 1960s Ross steering shaft. looking at your photo with the upper joint it looks like the 1974 diagram.

The horn contact was under the dash, there was a brush screwed on to the column that went through a hole on to a ring. the ring rotated but was connected to the hornbutton above. The horn button grounded the circuit.
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That clip could just be stopping the lower bushing from dropping out.

The column came from GM, it is a Saginaw design. You may be able to find the parts on GM parts sites.

Walckes sell a horn button kit but i am not sure it fits your column. Once you have verified if there is a brush under the dash and which column you may have< you may try contacting them.
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1981 J20 258ci - Gladys
1951 Willys CJ3A/MB/M38 - Little Willy
1995 Cherokee 4.0 - CHEROKEE
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post #4 of 6 Old 06-22-2021, 07:58 AM
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The horn blows when you complete the ground circuit. The column is the grounding point.

The bushing at the bottom of the steering column is 1" OD and 3/4" ID. The one I took out of mine was nylon or a similar substance. When I rebuilt the column on our 74 I found everything online except for the bushing. I fabricated one out of PVC. Afterwards I found a brass bushing at the local Ace Hardware that would have worked. Over the years rust had built up on the shaft and inside the column. A 1" bottle brush and sand paper wrapped around a 3/4" dowel rod got the inside close to slick. i polished the shaft with crocus cloth and sand paper but if I had to do it again I'd take it to the machine shop and let them polish it on a lathe. To take some of the pressure off the bushing and the upper bearing I put a section of 3/4" ID 1" OD hose on the shaft and lubed it with grease and let it support the shaft inside the column. I had it apart a few weeks ago and all the makeshift parts were still holding up after 4 or 5 years.

When you remove the coupler you might think that the splines are worn on one side. They aren't and had I known that I wouldn't have ordered a new coupler. The bolts are 7/16" fine thread. The lower bolt holds the coupler together and also holds the lower shaft in place by going through the grove cut into the shaft.

When you reassemble the column ensure that the spring under the wheel is snug. The pressure it provides keeps the nut that hold the wheel snug. Don't ask how i discovered this.

You will eventually need to use most of this so go download it now. https://oljeep.com/edge_74_tsm.html There is little if any difference between the 73 and 74.

If none of the usual online parts suppliers don't have parts for your Jeep try these folks https://blog.kaiserwillys.com/ . They specialize on earlier Jeeps bu often parts didn't change from 1955 through 1975.

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Thanks for your reply I will add the diagram to my resources. Heffff
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Thanks for taking the time to give me a detailed description and great ideas on cleaning up the steering column. Heffff
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