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post #1 of 23 Old 12-13-2019, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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Twin Shifter Comparison

Forums can be great for getting a gauge on brands to avoid or product characteristics to look for. I haven’t seen anything on the forum comparing twin sticks (including conversion kits). What should you look for? Material differences? Tall vs short shifters? I see the usual brands. Leaning Novak for everything but have no valid reason.

I’m rebuilding my Dana300 transfer case in a couple of months and wanted to get feedback on this and the spring/ball mod to get it done right. Thanks!

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post #2 of 23 Old 12-13-2019, 06:53 PM
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JB Fabrication twin sticks are on my Christmas wish list.

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I bought the Novak twin stick. I also swapped an AX15, so my issue may not apply to you. The AX15 is longer than the T5 I took out. Also, the AX15 required a clocking disk. Both of these pushed to D300 further back. I got the twin stick with the adjustable length. The adjusting plates have pre-drilled holes that allow positioning the pivot points for the shifters. However, I could not find a combination with the pre-drilled holes that did not have the shifters either a) hit the dash panel or b) hit the center console. I ended up taking the lower plates and drilling new holes in between the pre-drilled holes. Now the shifters do not hit either the dash or console.

Again, my issues may not be yours.

Edit: It shifts fine (now)

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I think it's pretty hard to beat the design and price of the JB Fab twin sticks. And after 3 years with them now I have no complaints. Sans any non Jeep trans as mentioned above that would alter length.

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My preference is to go with taller ones. Having them on the passenger side makes for a long stretch.

I made my own, it's not really that hard.
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I also have the JB Custom Fab twin sticks, great setup. I visited their shop when I was in Oregon. These guys are hard core offroaders, so I don't have any reservations about recommending their products. I have 12" long sticks, they also come in 18", so if you have a console or just don't want to reach down then the longers ones are a good option.
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My preference is to go with taller ones. Having them on the passenger side makes for a long stretch.

I made my own, it's not really that hard.
Nice work John. Very nice.
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From John: My preference is to go with taller ones. Having them on the passenger side makes for a long stretch.

Pardon this "DUH!" question, but speaking of longer sticks; will the taller 1980 Dana 300 shifter create any issues if used with a 1985 dana 300 with stock 258 and T5? My thinking is the slightly shorter output shaft of the stock 1980 dana would not change the position of the shifter. I have wondered why the 1980 tall Dana shifter is rarely mentioned as a single stick upgrade.

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From John: My preference is to go with taller ones. Having them on the passenger side makes for a long stretch.

Pardon this "DUH!" question, but speaking of longer sticks; will the taller 1980 Dana 300 shifter create any issues if used with a 1985 dana 300 with stock 258 and T5? My thinking is the slightly shorter output shaft of the stock 1980 dana would not change the position of the shifter. I have wondered why the 1980 tall Dana shifter is rarely mentioned as a single stick upgrade.

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Depends which transmission you are hooking it up to I guess. The T-5 pushes the t-case way back.

What you see in the picture is a 1980 T-176/Dana 300 shifter (the long one) a 1984 T-176/Dana 300 shifter (the short one.)
Originally I had a T4/Dana 300 shifter and it moved the t-case shifter forward so it was inline with the T-176 shifter. This one got very close to the dash.

If you use a 1980 T-176/Dana 300 Shifter with a T-4 or T-5, it will probably sit back too far and not fit through the tunnel cover.

Did they have a T-5 or T-4 in 1980?

You could probably heat and bent the shifter to fit though or cut a couple of inches out your floor. .


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When I ordered mine from JB Fab I had a few questions and he answered them without a hitch. I told him I was doing a SBC swap and going with a 4L60 tranny. I also told him I planned on a 2" body lift and he said that he would put a bend in them and adjust the length. They worked perfectly the first time. And the price was much cheaper than I could imagine...

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Thanks everybody. JB it is. Still looking at the mods you have to make inside the case.
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Depends which transmission you are hooking it up to I guess. The T-5 pushes the t-case way back.

What you see in the picture is a 1980 T-176/Dana 300 shifter (the long one) a 1984 T-176/Dana 300 shifter (the short one.)
Originally I had a T4/Dana 300 shifter and it moved the t-case shifter forward so it was inline with the T-176 shifter. This one got very close to the dash.

If you use a 1980 T-176/Dana 300 Shifter with a T-4 or T-5, it will probably sit back too far and not fit through the tunnel cover.

Did they have a T-5 or T-4 in 1980?

You could probably heat and bent the shifter to fit though or cut a couple of inches out your floor. .
Thanks John. Just the info I was looking for. Jim Allen's book "Jeep" indicates the T4 and T5 were not offered in 1980 as the T-176 was standard. If I choose to "go tall" I would bend the shifter........cut the tub?...over my dead body

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Thanks John. Just the info I was looking for. Jim Allen's book "Jeep" indicates the T4 and T5 were not offered in 1980 as the T-176 was standard. If I choose to "go tall" I would bend the shifter........cut the tub?...over my dead body

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Yep, Bend the shifter. Easy if you have a hot enough torch.

I have a T-4/5 t-case shifter at home if you need some measurements.

You would have to bend near the eye and the bend on the top.


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Yep, Bend the shifter. Easy if you have a hot enough torch.

I have a T-4/5 t-case shifter at home if you need some measurements.

You would have to bend near the eye and the bend on the top.
John,

A very kind offer. I have a T5 t-case shifter....somewhere. I'll dig it out when the time comes.

Thanks again,

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This mine but it’s not a true twin shifter. I did not remove the detent balls, i made the change cause I was changing ripped shifter boots on the T176/300 every year. Mine are a little forward than I would like but it will stay that way cause a new floor plate is 80$. I do like the little changes that you get over a single shifter.
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