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Taking the plunge!(frame off)

So this all started with a break job and bearing servicing. I was planning on doing things in stages but the more I got looking the more I found that needed done.
So getting into the AMC 20 bearings I found everything under the drums needed replacing except the drums and backing plates and they needed cleaning and painting. Then discovered I needed a hub/axle puller and I'm already broke at this point because I bought seals and break pads/shoes.
Being stalled on the project till I could raise funds I decided to move to less costly things like dealing with the slimy mess on the firewall from the leaky master break cylinder. I take out the front seats and aftermarket console and while I'm underneath unbolting them I see cracked body mounts. Uuug and that made the decision to do the frame off.
Here's before pics and my progress to this point. Sorry I didn't think to take more pics but I'll take more next weekend.

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Boy....I know that one.....did it to my CJ years ago.

An engine hoist works well for pulling the body off. Attach a chain to a couple of your seatbelt bolts. Don't try to re-use the old rubber....and do NOT use polly....the stuff is stiff and will make it ride more harsh.

While you have the tub off, sandblast the bottom and undercoat it.

For you rear axle.....maybe look for a replacement...D44? before you sink to much money in it.

Are you going to offroad with it or will it be a daily driver?


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Uuug and that made the decision to do the frame off.


Not picking on you, just getting a little annoyed with the term "frame off". Why does everyone call it a frame off rebuild or restoration when it's really a body off or tub off. You're not taking the frame off anything.


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Yes I'm undercoating the tub and the frame will get epoxy paint.
The axles, well I have my eye on a 44 from a scout and the rear I have a few options I'm researching. A 44 from a newer Jeep that already has disc brakes or maybe a custom 9 or 8.8.
As far a use I'm building it as a dayly driver that should be very capable off road. I plan when building the axles to install ARB or E-lockers and old man emu yj springs. I'm looking for a t18 to put in front of the D20 with a twin stick kit.
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Uuug and that made the decision to do the frame off.
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Not picking on you, just getting a little annoyed with the term "frame off". Why does everyone call it a frame off rebuild or restoration when it's really a body off or tub off. You're not taking the frame off anything.

<img src="https://www.jeepforum.com/gallery/data/4/rantoff.gif" border="0" alt="" title="RantOff" class="inlineimg" />
"Not" picking, when it's directing at me in a thread I started. Tomato/tomoto it's a general term but if Grammer Nazis want to invade it, I'll take it down.
I just wanted to share my project that I'm enjoying with everyone else and maybe get a few tips as well as maybe help someone else who might be doing the same.
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Not picking on you, just getting a little annoyed with the term "frame off". Why does everyone call it a frame off rebuild or restoration when it's really a body off or tub off. You're not taking the frame off anything.

Formica is the brand name of counter top material.....but when someone says "Formica", regardless of brand, you know what they are talking about.

Same with "Frame off"......which is short for "Body (tub..rust bucket) off the frame". We all know what it means.

Click on the link in my signature....I used the same phrase......


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Not picking on you, just getting a little annoyed with the term "frame off". Why does everyone call it a frame off rebuild or restoration when it's really a body off or tub off. You're not taking the frame off anything.

Formica is the brand name of counter top material.....but when someone says "Formica", regardless of brand, you know what they are talking about.

Same with "Frame off"......which is short for "Body (tub..rust bucket) off the frame". We all know what it means.

Click on the link in my signature....I used the same phrase......


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Thanks ddawg16
If you're interested in the content and not my grammar I'll post more pics as the project progresses. I'm open to suggestions and questions about it.
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Formica is the brand name of counter top material.....but when someone says "Formica", regardless of brand, you know what they are talking about.

Same with "Frame off"......which is short for "Body (tub..rust bucket) off the frame". We all know what it means.

Click on the link in my signature....I used the same phrase......
Doesn't make it correct, just used. We are watering down our language with meaningless, obscure terms. I see it all the time in commercials, leftist politics, corporate business, etc. At some point we're going to need to reinvent the language just to understand what is being said or written.

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Doesn't make it correct, just used. We are watering down our language with meaningless, obscure terms. I see it all the time in commercials, leftist politics, corporate business, etc. At some point we're going to need to reinvent the language just to understand what is being said or written.
Is "Frame Up Restore" ok?


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Formica is the brand name of counter top material.....but when someone says "Formica", regardless of brand, you know what they are talking about.

Same with "Frame off"......which is short for "Body (tub..rust bucket) off the frame". We all know what it means.

Click on the link in my signature....I used the same phrase......
Doesn't make it correct, just used. We are watering down our language with meaningless, obscure terms. I see it all the time in commercials, leftist politics, corporate business, etc. At some point we're going to need to reinvent the language just to understand what is being said or written. <img src="https://www.jeepforum.com/gallery/data/4/facepalm.gif" border="0" alt="" title="FacePalm" class="inlineimg" />
If you would like to be my personal editor, I can forward my post to you before I put them up. I'm a gearhead and a Jeep enthusiast, not an English teacher. If you're not interested in the content I have or the project that I'm working on, just scroll on by my thread.
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Should I just delete and restart the thread because of clutter? Or just sign out?

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If you would like to be my personal editor, I can forward my post to you before I put them up. I'm a gearhead and a Jeep enthusiast, not an English teacher. If you're not interested in the content I have or the project that I'm working on, just scroll on by my thread.
It was a rant and openly put forth as such. I have no time or inclination to be the grammar police, however sometimes its frustrating watching language being butchered and nobody having a thought about it. If I really wanted to be the grammar police I'd be citing you for improper use of the word break when you really mean brake.

Your thread may be interesting, but there isn't enough going on yet to understand whether there will be worthwhile content or not.

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If you would like to be my personal editor, I can forward my post to you before I put them up. I'm a gearhead and a Jeep enthusiast, not an English teacher. If you're not interested in the content I have or the project that I'm working on, just scroll on by my thread.

Your thread may be interesting, but there isn't enough going on yet to understand whether there will be worthwhile content or not.
I just started it. You hadn't given it a chance before you cluttered it up. You dropped your rant and I responded. I haven't even had a chance to add or edit. Now I wanna say fk it and just sign off.

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Mounting the battery on the front bumper like that is a bold strategy . I like your style. I'll be tuning in.

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