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post #1 of 11 Old 05-29-2020, 02:39 PM Thread Starter
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Rear tub/wheel wells are spreading out

I've known about this looming issue for a while, but as my welding skills improve, I'm closing in on the day when I'm going to have to deal with all this. As you can see in the first picture, the rear of the tub is sort of "opening up" on the driver's side. There are probably a lot of reasons for this, such as the bed is pretty much non-existent. Although it seems to be off-kilter only on the driver's side, which may be relevant IDK.

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(awesome, looks like they are rotated 90*)

So my question is around how do I go about squaring this thing back up? Particularly because I know my roll bar has massive, massive rust underneath and I'm afraid this whole thing is only as square as it is because the roll bar is keeping it drawn in.

What I feel like I need to do is somehow square it up, and then weld in maybe two braces across the top of the tub to bear the load. Or something else, I'm totes making this up as I go. I feel like I saw somebody else rig up something like this a while back. I'm open to ideas.

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-29-2020, 02:57 PM
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I don't see your rear crossmember, is it still in place? Your tailgate lower corners seem to be cracked......

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I don't see your rear crossmember, is it still in place? Your tailgate lower corners seem to be cracked......
Yeah, I have no shortage of problems. Rear crossmember (we're talking about the one that essentially caps the end of the frame rails?) is currently removed. I need to fix the rear body mounts before I can put it back on. Maybe that needs to be a priority? So much to do, it's hard to know where to start sometimes.
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For what is worth, replace the Tailgate Support: https://www.classicent.com/products/...te-end-support
You'll be miles ahead in repair work labor time.
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Hows the rest of the tub? We see the rear cross member is bad and you say the bed is bad.....and lots of rust under the roll bar feet.
It might be time for a tub replacement. For the time, cost, and overall BS factor, it might really be worth it.

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Hows the rest of the tub? We see the rear cross member is bad and you say the bed is bad.....and lots of rust under the roll bar feet.
It might be time for a tub replacement. For the time, cost, and overall BS factor, it might really be worth it.
IDK, it's probably not quite as bad as I've made it out to be. I've read some of the other threads, and I see a lot of the same issues. I've got a plan in my head for fixing a lot of it...understanding how the panels fit together is helping it all come together in my head.

Truth is my wife would never go for it. The fact that it sat untouched for so long in my garage is probably the biggest factor...no way I can justify spending another however much and essentially tripling my garage footprint (temporarily, anyway). Especially since I'm part of the not-so-exclusive Corona Layoff Club. I have the welder, I have the sheet metal, and I have some time. At the very least I need to start in on it just so I can learn how. Better to learn on a crap tub than a good one, right?
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For what is worth, replace the Tailgate Support: https://www.classicent.com/products/...te-end-support
You'll be miles ahead in repair work labor time.
I need to clean up that section and see what I'm working with.
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What shape are your body mounts in?

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What shape are your body mounts in?

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The mounts themselves are actually fine, although the caged nuts are rotted out in a few cases, and the bolts broke in a few others. The ones in the toe board still need looked at, I think I resolved all the other ones. I have some front floorboard rust, I figure I'll get a much better look at the toe board once I de-cancer that section.
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Start with the crossmember, than you have an nice straight base to continue on the bodywork. A 2" by 4" angle iron will do.

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Start with the crossmember, than you have an nice straight base to continue on the bodywork. A 2" by 4" angle iron will do.
I have a replacement heavy duty crossmember, I think from somebody on here or another jeep forum... I don't think there's anything stopping me from mounting that sucker other than throwing some paint on it. I guess I'll get on that.
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