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CSP 03-28-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by trailhead2004 (Post 40566993)
Assuming they're the same length.

Taller Chevy/Ford tailgate would mean longer rubber cover if anything. Enter knife/scissors/other cutting apparatus. :D

texasdave 03-28-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by trailhead2004 (Post 40567493)
Which leads to a confirmation question.

I have read that a Dana 30 front and Dana 44 rear are standard with a Dana 20 transfer case for this year. To the best of your knowledge is this statement true?

I'm not exactly sure when AMC started using the AMC 20 rear end. I do know that sometimes there is a dark hole finding certain parts. You can find up to 1972 and then 1976 an up.

JoonHoss 03-28-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by texasdave (Post 40568507)
I'm not exactly sure when AMC started using the AMC 20 rear end...

Pretty sure the AMC model 20 rear was '76-up

Hoss

CSP 03-28-2019 09:50 PM

Any '72-75 will have a Dana 44 rear, Dana 30 front and the Dana 20 tcase if it still has its factory parts. In those years the standard gear ratio was 3.73 with 4.27 as an option.

The AMC20 wasn't used until '76 for any of the Jeep branded vehicles. AMC cars had them long before then. My dad has a '66 Rambler Ambassador (ordered it new) that has the AMC 20. The weird thing on that car is the driveshaft is enclosed in a tube.

HAZCAT 03-29-2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JoonHoss (Post 40568543)
Pretty sure the AMC model 20 rear was '76-up

Hoss

Yes except don't forget the very last CJs in '86 had the Dana 44 rear end again. About mid year or so when AMC ran out of the Corporate 20 rear ends and knew they were not using it in the soon to be released YJ Wrangler so got Dana to ship them 44s to finish the line production.

trailhead2004 03-29-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HAZCAT (Post 40569061)
Yes except don't forget the very last CJs in '86 had the Dana 44 rear end again. About mid year or so when AMC ran out of the Corporate 20 rear ends and knew they were not using it in the soon to be released YJ Wrangler so got Dana to ship them 44s to finish the line production.

Would those be wide track or narrow track 44s?

JoonHoss 03-29-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HAZCAT (Post 40569061)
Yes except don't forget the very last CJs in '86 had the Dana 44 rear end again...

Correct!

Hoss

HAZCAT 03-29-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by trailhead2004 (Post 40569095)
Would those be wide track or narrow track 44s?

Wide track. All 82-84 CJ7s are wide track. The '86 CJ was the one I wanted since I was 16 (which was 1986) as it could be found with a 44, was wide track and the last year of the CJ. I have owned almost every version of the CJ at some point in my life except the Dana 44 '86 (they always sold before I could buy them), CJ3B, CJ8 Scrambler, and Tuxedo Park model (though the hood on my CJ6 is from a Tuxedo Park model and still has the holes from the badges). Have never owned a CJ with the Perkins diesel either.

only in a jeep cj 03-29-2019 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by trailhead2004 (Post 40569095)
Would those be wide track or narrow track 44s?

Wide track.

Direct swap out with a wide track Model 20.
Even uses the same brakes and drums.

But it does have its own spring plates / U bolts as the tubes are bigger. They look just like the 20 plates but with bigger holes and spacing. Always try to get those along with the axle.

jeepdaddy2000 03-29-2019 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CSP (Post 40568643)
The weird thing on that car is the driveshaft is enclosed in a tube.

The tube actually pushed the car through the transmission. The rear axle only had coils to carry weight and a panhard rod to keep the body centered. I have a 63 classic 770 in the yard with that exact setup.

mdawg4x4 04-01-2019 11:16 AM

My 75 didn't have a tailgate. Always wished it did.

Wizzal05 04-02-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HAZCAT (Post 40564461)
My first Jeep at 16 was a '75 CJ5 Renegade Levi Edition with the 304, 3 speed, soft top. Manual brakes and steering

I got that exact jeep right now ..

Wizzal05 04-02-2019 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HAZCAT (Post 40564461)
My first Jeep at 16 was a '75 CJ5 Renegade Levi Edition with the 304, 3 speed, soft top. Manual brakes and steering

I am Driving that same jeep right now

HAZCAT 04-03-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzal05 (Post 40574221)
I am Driving that same jeep right now

Mine was black with tan interior and gold Renegade stripes and no tailgate. My cousin bought it in 1976 with 7,000 miles on it. I was 7 at the time and learned how to drive in it. I would stand on the clutch and start it, put it in first and then let the clutch push me back into the seat and off I went. Then when I turned 16 my cousin was off in the Air Force and so it was mine throughout high school. I sold it years ago to a Doctor that had one like it in college. He restored it but didn't put the stripes back on which I would have done.

HAZCAT 04-03-2019 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzal05 (Post 40574221)
I am Driving that same jeep right now

Mine was black with tan interior and gold stripes. My cousin bought it in 1976 with 7,000 miles on it. Learned to drive in it.


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