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post #1 of 11 Old 05-15-2019, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
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Power steering conversion

I know this has been discussed at length many times, I've searched and read the write ups that look like they might include the information I'm needing but simply haven't found the answer to my question so please bear with me on this.

I have an 80 cj5 that when stock was a 4 cylinder manual steer. When I purchased it it was already converted to a SBC set up but still manual steer. I want to upgrade my steering to power, which if it were all stock would be very simple, BUT as it now has the GM motor in it the parts needed are a little iffy on which ones will work.

I have recently picked up a power steering box from an 84 cj7. My question that I haven't found the answer to yet is....what hoses are needed that will fit the 350 pump to the cj7 gear box? Since the power steering pumps are mounted in different locations from the AMC v8's compared to the Chevy v8's woukd the same hose work or is there an adaptation needed?

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-15-2019, 09:52 AM
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An 84 CJ7 and a Chevy both use a Saginaw power steering pump. There are two types of connections on Saginaw pumps and Saginaw steering boxes that were used in CJ7 Jeeps. I am not sure where the split was. The early pumps used a flare connection, the later used an O-ring. Match the pump with the style steering box you have and it will make that part simpler. Some of the Chevy conversion guys can probably chime in and tell you what hoses they used. If you can find a mount for your motor that mounts the pump in a similar place as it was mounted on the Jeep, you can probably use stock Jeep hoses. If you need it longer or shorter, there are hose shops that can put new hose on the end tubing or shorten or lengthen it.
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post #3 of 11 Old 05-15-2019, 09:54 AM
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Same hoses will work. Have a 350 in my CJ-5 and running the stock 6 cyl hoses. The hoses are plenty long to reach the pump on the SBC. Just make sure you have the correct pressure side fitting in the pump to match the lines for the box. IIRC 84 used o-ring fitting hoses.

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So if I'm understanding correctly, the power steering hoses from the 84 cj7 will not only fit the pump and gearbox but also fit length as well? PERFECT, as usual I was over thinking the issue.

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post #5 of 11 Old 05-15-2019, 07:26 PM
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The pump and steering box should be o-ring the change was made in 1980. I have a SBC with an H1 steering box so the pressure hose is the most hard to match up, the return line you can make yourself. Both hoses will be relatively short, if your pump is mounted left side low. If you don't have the chevy brackets junkyards are full of the parts you will need, just get the entire setup, it will make life easier.
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On a Cj with a 258 the power steering pump is above the steering box on the right as you look at the engine, makes it the shortest route. If you put your pump on the left, the stock hoses will not reach.

You could get them made quite cheaply if the lengths do not work. It is the crimp which needs the right tool to make them, but otherwise simple stuff.

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What I have is an 80 cj5 with the steering box out of an 84 cj7. The motor is a crate 350 that my intent is to have the pump hung on the left side nearest the box. I plan on getting an 84 power steering pump for a chevy truck hoping that it too will have the same style of fitting as the chevy pump.
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I ended up making custom hoses. Just about any NAPA store can do it for you.

If I remember, I'll take pics of my setup when I get home.


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What I have is an 80 cj5 with the steering box out of an 84 cj7. The motor is a crate 350 that my intent is to have the pump hung on the left side nearest the box. I plan on getting an 84 power steering pump for a chevy truck hoping that it too will have the same style of fitting as the chevy pump.
The 84 pump will have o-ring fittings and will work with your box. Do you the brackets and pulleys?
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I have brackets. Will have to wait and see if they fit the pump or not. Pulley.....I'm gonna have to source that
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I ended up making custom hoses. Just about any NAPA store can do it for you.

If I remember, I'll take pics of my setup when I get home.

That would be great. The closest NAPA to me is about 50 miles. Theres an O'Rielly's near that does, but I've never heard anything good about they're work.
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