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post #1 of 12 Old 02-16-2020, 06:26 PM Thread Starter
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Are these OEM flip tumble holes in my tub? Do the front holes look right spacing of about 5”?

If so I’m super excited! I’ll be looking for the OEM flip tumble seat!

I’ve got learning to do about it, and if YJ parts are same but I’ll search and learn!

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Common on the 1985-86 CJ tubs but not for 1984.

And yes, the hole spacing is for factory fold-&-tumble seat as well as the anchor mount holes with the backing plate on the wheelhouse.

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I'm no expert, but looks like it to me.
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You must have a very late 84.
Are your seat belt buckle tabs the skinny ones with a plastic casing or the fatter more common GM style? (It won’t matter either way I’ve just only seen the skinny ones on the 84 and the fatter ones on the 85 and 86) but with most of this stuff there are exceptions

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Can we get some dimensions off the plate if you can? I have a rear fold-&-tumble that I want to add this year but don't have the factory backing plate like the 85-95 tubs had.
Length and width and if you are able to do the radius at the corners would be great but I know not everyone has radius gauges handy.
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You must have a very late 84.
Are your seat belt buckle tabs the skinny ones with a plastic casing or the fatter more common GM style? (It wonít matter either way Iíve just only seen the skinny ones on the 84 and the fatter ones on the 85 and 86) but with most of this stuff there are exceptions
I will check tonight and send a pic of them! My tub is not original to my CJ. When I bought my CJ it came with the original '84 tub and original paint. I know it was a late model because of the JOOP stamping on the sides of the original tub. When I bought a rust free OEM tub from Rudy, I knew it was a late model because of the JOOP as well, so I was happy. I am just now learning about the fold/tumble which is a bonus!! I assume I must have bought an 85/86 tub.

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Can we get some dimensions off the plate if you can? I have a rear fold-&-tumble that I want to add this year but don't have the factory backing plate like the 85-95 tubs had.
Length and width and if you are able to do the radius at the corners would be great but I know not everyone has radius gauges handy.
I sure can. Give me a day to get these dimensions but I will post back late tonight or tomorrow. I don't have a circle template but I can measure them pretty accurate with a machinist scale! I do know the the threads are 1/4-20 as I ran my thread cleaner chase tool thru them last night.

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So what I think I would like to do is put an "OEM style" rear seat in. I'm not a fan of the back seat getting wider at the top over the wheel wells - that looks weird to me and not period correct. But I am also reading a lot of info on different ways to "latch" the seat back. I think Id like to have it so I do not have the brackets on the sides, that will make for a cleaner tub without stuff to snag on. Maybe a seat that self latches, and also has seat belts attached to the seat so the belts can flip up with the seat? But with the narrow seat back? I also only want to use the OEM holes as I do not want to drill any non OEM holes. If this is not possible - I will go ahead and use OEM brackets and latches and seat belt connections to the floor I guess!

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Ok, so you have an 85 or 86 tub. It has all the correct holes in the correct places. Just set up the seat as if it was a late CJ. You can use any of the bracket sets or seats from 85 to 95. The side brackets are small and don’t get on the way or snag stuff. Just use them as designed. The only difference will be in your seat belts. They will bolt to the floor now and the attachment bracket at the end of the belt will have a 90 degree bend in it unlike the flat ones used on the fixed rear seats from earlier. You can bend yours in a vice or get the later belts.

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You must have a very late 84.
Are your seat belt buckle tabs the skinny ones with a plastic casing or the fatter more common GM style? (It won’t matter either way I’ve just only seen the skinny ones on the 84 and the fatter ones on the 85 and 86) but with most of this stuff there are exceptions
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Can we get some dimensions off the plate if you can? I have a rear fold-&-tumble that I want to add this year but don't have the factory backing plate like the 85-95 tubs had.
Length and width and if you are able to do the radius at the corners would be great but I know not everyone has radius gauges handy.
Pic of plate. Looks to be 2x5 and 1/2” radius
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Thanks for those measurements and I'll make a template tonight on paper.

The hole spacing I can get from the rear seat anchor brackets I have and I believe they are 3-1/8" apart or 1-9/16" from center.

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Thanks for those measurements and I'll make a template tonight on paper.

The hole spacing I can get from the rear seat anchor brackets I have and I believe they are 3-1/8" apart or 1-9/16" from center.
I added two more pics that I accidentally deleted from the last post! Yes, 3 1/8 looks exact! I added a measurement for the nut as well, it’s a 1/4-20 thread.

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