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post #1 of 84 Old 11-13-2013, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
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Needed: 4.2L Air Cleaner Bracket or different style Air Cleaner Housing

We recently got two CJ-7's, one is original but the other (a Laredo) has had an aftermarket cold air setup put on it but we just realized today that the older cold air system has a long split up the backside along the seam in the housing and looks like the front-side seam is starting to also, doesn't look worth fixing.

Went to put the stock air cleaner (which came with the Jeep from the PO) back on it but discovered we can't mount it, the bracket that goes on top of the valve cover to hold the lower half of the air-cleaner is totally missing. Had to look at the other Jeep just to know WHAT was missing.

Anyways, would anyone know of either;

1) Where I can get a replacement bracket and the parts that go with it
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2) Another model air cleaner that will fit on it and not need that bracket.


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Last time I needed parts the dealer was still able to get those mounting parts.
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Do a search for Keith460's build. He made his own bracket, and it appeared to be a simple fab job.

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That looks nice, but don't think I could do one that nice. Probably be easier to find a used one. I am not personally even crazy about the offset air cleaner setup. I wonder if some of the earlier or later models didn't use it and used a more traditional setup, or even just an aftermarket chrome one since we don't care about originality on this particular Laredo, but I don't want one of those tiny things. Looked in the auto parts store today and the only aftermarket 2BBL ones they had would just look stupidly small if you've seen the ones I'm referring to. Oh, and this Laredo does have power brakes and power steering.

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If some has a pic they can post of these parts I'll take a look at what I have laying around. I posted a breather on here for someone a while back.

There are pics of the one I have are here,
https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/cj...stion-1551536/
I may have the brackets your looking for but without a pic I couldn't say for sure.
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I purchased the standard 9" diameter chrome air cleaner from the auto parts store and also purchased the adapter to get from the 2 barrel to a 4 barrel opening on the bottom of the air cleaner. I'm not sure of the dimensions, but it is around 2-1/2" to 4-1/2" adapter. I didn't like the tiny monkey hat looking air cleaner that would fit the 2 barrel.
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I have seen some even larger than that on a CJ-7 with PB and PS in a photo, looked like the standard 14" size, I'm betting it must have an offset base. Used to you could get offset bases already in 2BBL models and not need the adapter but I don't know if you can or not anymore.

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If some has a pic they can post of these parts I'll take a look at what I have laying around. I posted a breather on here for someone a while back.

There are pics of the one I have are here,
https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/cj...stion-1551536/
I may have the brackets your looking for but without a pic I couldn't say for sure.

Yep, you would have had the same bracket that I need. That's the same air cleaner that I have now but can't mount without the bracket for the top of the valve cover.

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I purchased the standard 9" diameter chrome air cleaner from the auto parts store and also purchased the adapter to get from the 2 barrel to a 4 barrel opening on the bottom of the air cleaner. I'm not sure of the dimensions, but it is around 2-1/2" to 4-1/2" adapter. I didn't like the tiny monkey hat looking air cleaner that would fit the 2 barrel.

What brand and model (if you remember) is that one?

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Personally, i think it's worth returning to the stock setup.

There's a reason all modern vehicles have a "closed" design. It's especially critical on a Cj, since the engine compartment sees so much dust.

If your rig is going to be a mall-crawler, then its not as important.

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For dusty environments I've always liked the K&N setup with the foam pre-filter added on over the outside of the main filter.

Side question: What is the flange size of the 2BBL stock carbs on these anyways? I'm in the house and the Jeeps are down in the shop (several hundred yards from the house) and it's 28 degrees out there so I'm admittedly being lazy and don't feel like walking down there in this cold snap just to measure one of them if one of you guys happens to know off the top of your head.

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Put a jacket on, and quit being lazy.

I've done the K&N thing and found it to be worthless in my neck of the woods.

Your mileage may vary....

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Put a jacket on, and quit being lazy.

I've done the K&N thing and found it to be worthless in my neck of the woods.

Your mileage may vary....

Matt

ROFL! Awe, but she just got coco made with marshmallows

The K&N's work great here in the south and out west in the desert and up in the mountains of Colorado and Wyoming (the three main areas we offroad). the only thing we like to add though is the PreCharger pre-filter wrap and/or the foam pre-filter wrap if your in particularly dusty or muddy conditions. I run them on almost all my vehicles, K&N's and Casterol Syntec has ran numerous Jeep Cherokees and Grand Cherokees to 300,000-400,000 miles and still going strong when I sold them without having ever needed rebuilding.

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I've been driving a CJ for 37 years.

I'm not going to argue with a kid who thinks he knows everything about his first.

Take my advice for what it is worth.

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I was unaware that we were arguing. Also... Kid? ROFL... Wow, haven't been called a kid in about 40 years! I'm in my late 40's and a retired Army Ranger, 17 years as a mobile security and tactical driving specialist including 4 wars in 3 countries. I passed my "first" Jeep a LONG LONG time ago. This is just my first CJ-7 to want to build up a bit for combined use. I never claimed to know everything about building a CJ for combined use the way I want to this time, in fact quite the opposite, that's why I have been asking some questions. That however does not mean I don't have experience in both Jeeps and other offroad vehicles of all kinds. In fact I've had Jeeps all my life, my first vehicle at age 14 was a Jeep and was driving my dads way before then, learned to drive when I was 7 in a CJ-6 (haven't seen one of those in years). I used to drive it all over the base I grew up on like an oversized go-kart, the MP's just waved. Since retiring I opened and run the Sandtown Offoad Ranch, a free place for offroaders to trail ride. I've built numerous offroad vehicles everything from mud Jeeps to Rock Crawlers. I was one of the very first people to take a Grand Cherokee up the Rubicon in 1992. As I said, I have ran NUMEROUS Jeeps of various models to over 300,000 miles (rarely sell them until they reach at least that, which for me only takes about 4-5 years on my daily drivers) and still going strong when I sold them, and never had nothing but great results with the K&N's as long as you use them properly.

Please don't take this wrong, I do normally welcome advice, that's how you learn about things you have either no or limited personal experience with, but when your talking about K&N's that's definitely one product that I actually don't need advice about because I have almost three decades of personal experience with them in all kinds of vehicles, the only times I have ever seen anyone claim to have a problem with a K&N it has always turned out that the actual problem was that the owner failed to maintain the filter properly, at least every case that I have personally witnessed.

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