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Loose Steering Wheel in'86 CJ7

anybody ever experience their steering wheel loosening up for whatever reason? I'm looking into getting replacement parts for under the hood (the assembly; Coupling/String Gear) but, just recently I've noticed the steering wheel itself has quite a bit of play. unrelated or not, this CJ7 has tilt steering, and for whatever reason I can easily lift the steering wheel an inch or so, whether tilted or not. general wear, or ?????? currently steers ok & all, but odd that play/loosening has just happened.

in layman terms it's as if the nut attaching the steering wheel to the column has just come loose.

if any experience with this issue, head's up on the fix?

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post #2 of 13 Old 01-26-2017, 09:49 PM
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It's a common problem with older GM tilt steering columns. There is 4 torx bolts in the middle of the column that come loose usually from people pulling on the steering wheel to get in and out of the vehicle over many years. Pretty much the column needs to come apart, Loctite applied and the bolts tightened. But beware, the tilt column is much harder to take apart and fix then the non-tilt column

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It's a common problem with older GM tilt steering columns. There is 4 torx bolts in the middle of the column that come loose usually from people pulling on the steering wheel to get in and out of the vehicle over many years. Pretty much the column needs to come apart, Loctite applied and the bolts tightened. But beware, the tilt column is much harder to take apart and fix then the non-tilt column
any idea what number torx?

obviously do it removing the horn pad and going beneath. any ideas if it's past the tilt assembly, or above it? wheel have to come off?

wild; first time in 30 years for me.
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http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/sm...;topic=12525.0

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wow, just a small job. thx.

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Ha ha that IS funny when the horn goes off when your wrench touches the contact.

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post #8 of 13 Old 01-27-2017, 08:48 PM
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Just did this, it took me about 2 1/2 hours with taking my time. Take pics as you go through the process, they will be life-savers. The turn signal assembly on mine was bad too so I replaced it while I was at it. Easy!

The key is removing the bracket bolts on the column underneath the dash. This will allow the column to give you plenty of room to remove it. The ignition key has a clip on it that you need to be careful when you remove it. It can break, shoot out, etc. Add grease to the obvious areas for glide. The tilt knuckle is a two piece plastic ball. Remember how it it attached. It's like a puzzle and goes together smoothly when you are aware of that assembly. You will need a column PIN remover tool. It makes removal of that tilt piece a breeze. (Pivot Puller CJ134). The 4 bolts need a 1/4" Dr. E8 EXTERNAL STAR SOCKET. Again, grease everything well and apply LOCKTITE on those 4 bolts. It is not as hard as the break-down read. Just be patient, organized and make sure you have all the needed tools. Good Luck!
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so i have been putting off getting a safety check forever. the horn doesn't work, and the turn signal switch was cracked. so i set about to replace those this week.
steering wheel column has been loose for as long as i can remember. works fine, but was getting annoying....and this seemed like a good opportunity to investigate and possibly fix the issue.
which led me to this thread.
a bit more involved than i had initially intended, but i've been taking my time and slowly taking the column apart. i can now see the bottom two reverse torx bolts.
i just removed the key ignition, which allowed me to pull off the outer housing.

i did order and have received the pivot puller tool (although at this point i am totally unsure how or when to use it)

can anyone out there offer a few pointers from here?
at this point i'm a little concerned about the bearing around the steering shaft. do all those balls fall out if i pull it out? is this something that should be replaced?
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I am working on 3 columns right now. Total breakdown for 2 of them. https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/r...iated-4393849/

Check out the photos. Will be reassembling them next week hopefully.
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post #11 of 13 Old 07-04-2020, 07:42 PM
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Not all these links are for cj columns, but they are all GM columns so still should be some help.


http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/sm...;topic=12525.0


https://www.elcaminocentral.com/thre...st-time.27192/


https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/8...lease-3820729/




btw, the bearings are in plastic cages so they shouldn't fall out freely unless the cage is damaged or they become dislodged (like I did!)
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btw, the bearings are in plastic cages so they shouldn't fall out freely unless the cage is damaged or they become dislodged (like I did!)
One should expect all of the bearings to fall out when disassembling. This looks to be the first time this column has been opened up so the cage will most likely be brittle or cracked or without grease. Once 0hcanada gets down to the 4 bolts, should plan on replacing items as needed on the way back up so you don't ever have to do it again.
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anybody ever experience their steering wheel loosening up for whatever reason? I'm looking into getting replacement parts for under the hood (the assembly; Coupling/String Gear) but, just recently I've noticed the steering wheel itself has quite a bit of play. unrelated or not, this CJ7 has tilt steering, and for whatever reason I can easily lift the steering wheel an inch or so, whether tilted or not. general wear, or ?????? currently steers ok & all, but odd that play/loosening has just happened.

in layman terms it's as if the nut attaching the steering wheel to the column has just come loose.

if any experience with this issue, head's up on the fix?
What is your email address? I have a good write up with photos that I took from the internet years ago on how to disassemble/reassemble the column. I tried to send you a pm but you have that blocked.
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