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post #4156 of 4228 Old 09-10-2019, 03:33 AM
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Pretty creative bends in that T-18 shifter cane, Jim. Looks cool!


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Pretty creative bends in that T-18 shifter cane, Jim. Looks cool!


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Thanks Rich but I can't take credit for most of them as that is the way it was when I bought the transmission. I just made some adjustments in the top end of it.


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Now that I see that, I am wondering how mine will fit... Do you know if the shift tower is in a different location from the Jeep application vs the Ford one? I was figuring it would be about the same place as the T177 or T150 setup as Jeep used them, didn't think they'd make it that far forward. Maybe I'm wrong (nothing unusual!)

Did you use the D300 or D20?

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Now that I see that, I am wondering how mine will fit... Do you know if the shift tower is in a different location from the Jeep application vs the Ford one? I was figuring it would be about the same place as the T177 or T150 setup as Jeep used them, didn't think they'd make it that far forward. Maybe I'm wrong (nothing unusual!)

Did you use the D300 or D20?
Rick I used the Dana 300 and an Advance adapter. One reason mine sits this far forward is that I made my own engine mounts. I was being careful to allow enough room behind the engine to keep it from hitting the firewall. It could sit 1" further back but I'm not changing it now. From the pictures I've seen most other transmission shift towers do sit further back. So depending on what mounts are holding your engine in place will dictate where yours will sit.
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They're the MORE Bombproof, which moved the engine 1" forward.

I forgot to mention, you mentioned Lokar boots. I found on Facebook "Stronghold Shiftboots", they make boots from a marine material for a lot of applications for the CJs. I have theirs for the T150 on my T177 and then I bought the D300 twin stick one but it won't fit since I am using the D20 hole, so I got the D20 twin stick one to put on, I just need to get a trim ring made for it.

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They're the MORE Bombproof, which moved the engine 1" forward.

I forgot to mention, you mentioned Lokar boots. I found on Facebook "Stronghold Shiftboots", they make boots from a marine material for a lot of applications for the CJs. I have theirs for the T150 on my T177 and then I bought the D300 twin stick one but it won't fit since I am using the D20 hole, so I got the D20 twin stick one to put on, I just need to get a trim ring made for it.

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They sure make some nice boots! My Lokar is here and it looks like it's going to work.

More Jeep stuff today. Matt (Fourtrail) brought me a YJ family bar today. I'll sandblast it and paint it black. Thanks Matt!!
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Got the roll bar, transmission tunnel cover and T-18 gear shift sandblasted, primed and painted today. It sure seems to take allot of paint to cover a roll bar but then much of your paint is wasted. Also painted the twin stick shifters but with a foam brush. I did not want to take them out. I did not paint the bottom surfaces that actually mount the roll bar to the tub. After the paint cures I'll put some POR-15 on them. Also all of the paint and primer was applied with an old style DeVilbiss spray gun. I had not used one of these until starting my Jeep project and have loved the results every time I use them. Putting paint on this way is so much better than with rattle cans and much cheaper. It also gives you more choices of what kind of paint you can use. The down side is clean up but if you plan your work and paint quite a few things at one time it's well worth the effort.

Another big thanks to Matt (Fourtrail) for bringing me the roll bar!!
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My transmission tunnel needed a new cover after swapping in the 5.0 and T-18. It's basically done now except for spraying on some bedliner. I used U-Pol Raptor on the rest of the tub and now you can buy touch up spray cans and I think 1 can should do the job. I have the twin stick boot and ordered a new Lokar boot for the T-18 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/lok-70hrb/overview/

Every time I make something like this it reminds me of just how much extra work you have to put into something when you make changes from what the factory had. I do like the metal working part of any project like this though. Got all the shift levers bent to suite me too.

I feel your pain Jim on how much extra work it takes to put something in that the factory never intended. I too have been struggling on what to do with my shift boot. I've actually ordered several off of eBay but have not hit on anything that will work. Make sure you post some pics when you get your boot on... I may have to got that route also.

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I feel your pain Jim on how much extra work it takes to put something in that the factory never intended. I too have been struggling on what to do with my shift boot. I've actually ordered several off of eBay but have not hit on anything that will work. Make sure you post some pics when you get your boot on... I may have to got that route also.

What setup do you have that you cannot find a boot for?


I tried to upload a picture of mine, I'm using the Stronghold Shiftboot T150 boot on my T177. I have yet to install the twin stick one, I need to get a new trim plate for around it and have yet to find a decent one. He seems to be pretty good at making custom too.

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I feel your pain Jim on how much extra work it takes to put something in that the factory never intended. I too have been struggling on what to do with my shift boot. I've actually ordered several off of eBay but have not hit on anything that will work. Make sure you post some pics when you get your boot on... I may have to got that route also.
I put the boots on today. The transfer case boot fit and turned out better than the transmission one did, I think. I still need to trim around the Lokar boot where it sticks out past the base plate. It will do the job. Maybe I'll run across something later on that works better.
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I bought one from Iowa80. It's for a Kenworth: https://www.iowa80.com/pd/kenworth-7...r-boot/197296/

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What setup do you have that you cannot find a boot for?


I tried to upload a picture of mine, I'm using the Stronghold Shiftboot T150 boot on my T177. I have yet to install the twin stick one, I need to get a new trim plate for around it and have yet to find a decent one. He seems to be pretty good at making custom too.

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I put the boots on today. The transfer case boot fit and turned out better than the transmission one did, I think. I still need to trim around the Lokar boot where it sticks out past the base plate. It will do the job. Maybe I'll run across something later on that works better.
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I bought one from Iowa80. It's for a Kenworth: https://www.iowa80.com/pd/kenworth-7...r-boot/197296/


I bought the stainless Steel trim ring https://www.iowa80.com/pd/kenworth-7...m-ring/197299/, and had it powder coated black along with the twin stick ring.

That looks pretty good Jim, but I was hoping for a rubber boot like HackFab did. I looked at the Kenworth boots on eBay and would like to use it if I can get it to fit. I'll post a pic later to show y'all my problem.
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I bought one from Iowa80. It's for a Kenworth: https://www.iowa80.com/pd/kenworth-7...r-boot/197296/

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That looks pretty good Jim, but I was hoping for a rubber boot like HackFab did. I looked at the Kenworth boots on eBay and would like to use it if I can get it to fit. I'll post a pic later to show y'all my problem.
I'll be watching for the pictures. I like Hack's much better too.
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I'll be watching for the pictures. I like Hack's much better too.

OK, this is what I have... a standard Jeep boot will not work because the metal cover at the bottom of the shift lever is too tall. Other options I've looked at are a problem because of how close the transmission and transfer case boots will be. Any and all ideas welcome. BTW, I'd like to try to keep it a rubber boot if I can work it out.
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Bob do you have a pick and pull salvage yard nearby? That was my next resort if I can find one around here, mine closed down last summer. Surely there has been one used that would work for you. I'll keep looking too.


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