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post #16 of 93 Old 02-19-2014, 08:58 PM
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That is a very nice result based on your pre and post pictures! Thanks for writing this up. I have two questions:

1. Is there any point in replacing the OEM light harness at the same time to make sure the wiring is updated from the switch to the relay?
2. What is the advantage of this Daniel Stern prefab relay vs. another popular one that people from this forum have used as there seems to be a wide gap in cost?
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Thanks again for simplying what can otherwise seem like a daunting task to some of us.

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That is a very nice result based on your pre and post pictures! Thanks for writing this up. I have two questions:

1. Is there any point in replacing the OEM light harness at the same time to make sure the wiring is updated from the switch to the relay?
2. What is the advantage of this Daniel Stern prefab relay vs. another popular one that people from this forum have used as there seems to be a wide gap in cost?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290956459559...84.m1423.l2649

Thanks again for simplying what can otherwise seem like a daunting task to some of us.
1. The relays don't require a lot of voltage from the switch, so its not necessary to replace the factory wiring from switch to relays, unless it's in bad shape.

2. The advantage is high grade components and a harness that is custom made for a CJ.

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2. What is the advantage of this Daniel Stern prefab relay vs. another popular one that people from this forum have used as there seems to be a wide gap in cost?
I should add, I definitely paid a premium for my lighting package by going thru Daniel Stern. After doing a few searches, it appears he puts a healthy markup on all the bulbs and harnesses.

I also found out Daniel has the harnesses made by a company called Susquehanna Motorsports in PA., and you can buy directly from them, eliminating Daniel's markup.

Overall, I probably paid 25% more then I would have if I shopped around and pieced the package together myself. I guess that's the price for convenience.

Aside from that, I'm very pleased with the upgrade. I took the Ol' Girl for a spin late last night and couldn't believe the improvement. It left me wondering why I didn't upgrade years ago.

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I just ordered a similar kit from Daniel for my JK. I too went for the Cibie's with the Narva 100/55W combo... after looking at your before and after shots, all I can say is WOW. Can't wait to install this. Pricey perhaps, but he has to make a living too and his knowledge and expertise has to be worth something too.

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I just ordered a similar kit from Daniel for my JK. I too went for the Cibie's with the Narva 100/55W combo... after looking at your before and after shots, all I can say is WOW. Can't wait to install this. Pricey perhaps, but he has to make a living too and his knowledge and expertise has to be worth something too.
Agreed.

Paying a extra hundred bucks, or so, doesn't kill me. And the convenience of a one-call plug and play solution makes it well worth it, IMO.

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Nice write up. I'm going to have to put this on my to do list.

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Definitely doing this when the weather breaks.
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Thanks for the kind words, gentlemen. I'm glad I may have inspired a few of you.

This was probably one of the simplest and most effective upgrades I've made to my CJ. And it made my heap safer. I guess I never realized just how bad CJ lights are, until now.

Another nice feature is this upgrade doesn't alter the factory wiring. It can easily be disconnected and returned to the original configuration, if needed, tho I can't imagine why someone would do that.

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post #24 of 93 Old 02-21-2014, 08:21 PM
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Nice job once again Matt. If you have the time folks, you can save a few extra $$'s and buy the parts only from Daniel Stern and build the harness yourself. That also gives you the luxury of placing the relays/fuses where they would best suit your needs. Either way, Daniel's parts are top shelf vs. the "cheaper" crap out there...

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Great write up Matt! This is on my spring to do list!!

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I did the same thing, from Mr Stern, about five years ago. First upgrade to the Jeep after I bought it. At the time I was pulling down big bucks and decided the extra cost of going through him for the convenience of what amounted to plug 'n' play was worth it. Nowadays I'd scrounge to build it for less. Either way, the results were excellent and it's still one of the best upgrades I've done. Nice write-up!

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Nice work, Matt. Thanks for sharing. The improvement is impressive!


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I got a set of 4 Bosch relays I think out of a caddy in the jy, now just gotta get my lazy self to buy some wire and fuses and wire it up...

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For those of you who want to build your own harness, here's a good pic of the parts you will need. The only thing not shown is wire, and perhaps some shrink-wrap.

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Heh, I looked at that and thought "Hey, that looks like my kitchen table woodgrain!" :-)

Here's a shot with the wiring put together and ready to install.
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