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post #1 of 15 Old 04-16-2019, 09:11 PM Thread Starter
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Heater cable options?

Driving the other day was a beautiful warm day, so I opened the vents. Come to find out the next morning when it was mid 30s, the vents were not closed although the cable was pushed in to the "heat" position. Looking under the dash, I find that the air control cable is now bend around the linkage post in an extra loose lap. I have already replaced these Crown/Omix crap pieces twice now, either I got tired of the knobs pulling off, the cables bending, etc.



I have been looking for options. Finding these, at almost $100 a set, I wonder if they're worth it. I figure I have already spent that replacing junk with junk, so if they are better, I will be better off...

https://www.cjjeepparts.com/control-...-5463657k.html


Has anyone ever tried them? Any reviews? Any other options???


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Hey Rick,

Not sure if you have checked out the set MTS has or not. I was on there sight a few weeks back and I think they carry the hole set. Don't remember the cost though.

https://www.mtscompany.com/jeep.htm

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eBay seller under the name barneysjeepparts sells the kit that includes all 5 cables. I think MTS makes them for him. Pricey but very well made and worth every penny in my opinion. I was one of his first customers when the 78-86 full kits came out. I have thought about labeling the center of the knob with some sort of symbol or letter for each function. The only minor issue is the metal collars fade a bit over time.
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Rick,
I have come across the same problem you are experiencing. I have found on mine, the inner cable are twisted strands that makeup the inner cable. When these are pushed and pulled for a while, they expand the twisted strands "frays" it so eventually the cable won't open or close all the way. This happens with manual choke cables as well.

I have found a "Morse" cable is solid, therefore ideal for the push/pull. What ever you get, check out the inner cable for twisted strands or solid wire.
https://www.cccables.com/ this is information
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eBay seller under the name barneysjeepparts sells the kit that includes all 5 cables. I think MTS makes them for him. Pricey but very well made and worth every penny in my opinion. I was one of his first customers when the 78-86 full kits came out. I have thought about labeling the center of the knob with some sort of symbol or letter for each function. The only minor issue is the metal collars fade a bit over time.
I think they put little stickers in these now, to look more like OEM. I'm tempted, but the first thing I've done is to make sure all of the mechanisms are as free-working as possible. Not much effort for the cables if everything works as smoothly as it should from the factory.

Could you polish the metal collars? Sure beats the painted plastic ones from Omix, where the paint falls off after a few months.
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UTN,

Did you get a set of these and do you like them? I will have to replace mine after summer is over.

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I'm not sure who makes them, but www.vintagejeepparts.com carries some cables that aren't made by Crown or Omix. Haven't used any, but it's the only place I've found with the specific 76/77 cables.

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not sure about the heavy duty control cable but the three piece set is Omix according to their website.

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I think they put little stickers in these now, to look more like OEM. I'm tempted, but the first thing I've done is to make sure all of the mechanisms are as free-working as possible. Not much effort for the cables if everything works as smoothly as it should from the factory.

Could you polish the metal collars? Sure beats the painted plastic ones from Omix, where the paint falls off after a few months.
I have considered getting a dremel brush after them and I have thought about painting them...just been too lazy to pull them off.
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Wow, thanks guys.



These cables are solid wire the whole way thru as far as I can tell. I do lube the mechanisms and such yearly, usually after that bent cable reminds me. The vent one is ALWAYS stiff though, even after a good lube of white lithium and working it "loose". I always feel like I am going to pull the cable out of the dash opening the vent. I'm thinking that barrel adjusted cable is done in...



The 3pc set on the Vintage Jeep Parts site are the junk style I'm replacing. They sell the MTS individually there though, INCLUDING the 2 oddball hard to find ones.



I looked on MTS page, and I couldn't find pricing.



I did happen to find this page while looking around some more. It is interesting how Google on the mobile shows some results, but then Google on the laptop shows others...


https://www.cjjeepparts.com/control-...-5463657k.html


The set of 3 for $95.98. I am very tempted to go this route, but asking them if they can get the one with the barrel adjuster too, as that one is the original, and I am wondering what kind of shape it is in internally after 41 years. I also like that they are using a nut, not those locking tabs that never hold. I have to put a huge ziptie around the defrost one to hold those tabs out, and then the bezel is never flush to the dash.

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Good call Walkerhound..here are some new ones I ordered after you said that
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Did they all come in a kit of 5, or did you have to order them separate? That is exactly what I am looking to get.

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Cutlas327- i have a set of these brand new in the package still i am trying to sell if interested. i am in Texas
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My order came with all 5.
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Cutlas327- i have a set of these brand new in the package still i am trying to sell if interested. i am in Texas

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