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post #1 of 33 Old 11-16-2019, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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Half door thoughts - Worth it?

Been strolling through the threads and haven't seen much of an open discussion on half doors, so here I am. Hope to get a little info before my painter is done with the Jeep so I can color match.

- Do you feel they are worth it?
- What is a good price to pay for a set?
- I know the 87-95 YJ is the set to get. (for future forum searcher sake)
- Anything that I should know?

There is a set locally for about $550 (factory half) and comes with the soft uppers, looks to be in good condition. I could buy a new set from Quadratec for $670, but those are of course aftermarket.

Thoughts are always appreciated.

I'm in the PNW and typically run with the doors off, but having the halves for possibly colder days or date nights with the wife could be nice.


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I've only ever had soft half doors on any of my CJ's. While they offered no protection other than from the elements, they were nice to have.

One of my YJ's had the factory hard half doors, and I bought a set of used half doors for my TJ.

I like full hard doors and a hard top, or no top/ doors. But that's just my preference.

The half doors were nice though.

The cost for them has shot up quite a bit the past few years.

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I've only ever had soft half doors on any of my CJ's. While they offered no protection other than from the elements, they were nice to have.

One of my YJ's had the factory hard half doors, and I bought a set of used half doors for my TJ.

I like full hard doors and a hard top, or no top/ doors. But that's just my preference.

The half doors were nice though.

The cost for them has shot up quite a bit the past few years.

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The little lady is typically only going to roll in the nice weather with the top off, otherwise, she is in the garage. I was thinking of a nice think on the colder days and keeping a bit of heat for the wife, and maybe myself. ha

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I'm a glutton for punishment, especially around here.

I love the top off on cold/ sunny days, especially if there's snow/ frost out. On my previous non DD jeeps, they sat in garage sans top 99% of the time.

I had a fleece stocking cap that was about 7 feet long, I used to pull it on and wrap the end a couple times around the main hoop of the rollbar

People would stare like I was from Mars (or Canada)

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I'm a glutton for punishment, especially around here.

I love the top off on cold/ sunny days, especially if there's snow/ frost out. On my previous non DD jeeps, they sat in garage sans top 99% of the time.

I had a fleece stocking cap that was about 7 feet long, I used to pull it on and wrap the end a couple times around the main hoop of the rollbar

People would stare like I was from Mars (or Canada) <img src="https://www.jeepforum.com/ubb/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

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I want to see pics of that.... Or it didn't happen. Jk

You must be Eastern Wash bc we get 1 cold day with sun a year on the Western side. Haha
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You must be Eastern Wash bc we get 1 cold day with sun a year on the Western side. Haha
Nope! West side (T-town)

And you are correct; admittedly few and far between!

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Gotta get me one of those fleece stocking caps! How cold we talking?

I'm OK with the doors off my 5 (soft top on) for a short couple mile trip around 30 degrees - 45MPH or below.

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When the wife bought our 74 CJ5 it had no top or or frame, doors, and needed new seats. I ordered a Bestop Bikini top, low backs, and (soft) half doors hoping the vinyl would match.

I've found several advantages of the half doors. We live in an area where we frequently have unexpected afternoon thunder storms and the half doors and Bikini top offer protection from the violent rain if we are moving. A second advantage is the piece of mind my wife enjoys when we drive the curvy roads in the mountains. Do they protect her? If any it isn't much. For these reasons we always travel with the doors in the back of the Jeep.

A couple of years ago I added a vinyl wind break which cuts off the air from the rear. Instead of the Bikini top billowing while driving the break sucks the top down so much that it smacks you on the head. Now I wish that when I had bought the half doors I had bought the two piece doors so I could cut off more cold air. It seems you cannot buy the top halves by themselves.

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I've found several advantages of the half doors. We live in an area where we frequently have unexpected afternoon thunder storms and the half doors and Bikini top offer protection from the violent rain if we are moving. A second advantage is the piece of mind my wife enjoys when we drive the curvy roads in the mountains. Do they protect her? If any it isn't much. For these reasons we always travel with the doors in the back of the Jeep.
Thatís a good idea. I have a set of soft doors that are two piece (uppers & lowers) that I have never installed on my Jeep. Iíll probably take the tops off of them and throw the lowers in the back next summer for the unpredictable afternoon thunder storms we see in eastern NC every summer.

UW91 what part of western Washington are you in? Thatís a great place to go wheeling. I did a four year tour at Coast Guard Air Station Port Angeles in 86-90. I had a blast wheeling my 1986 CJ-7 on the Olympic Peninsula back then. Iíd love to go back one day, Port Angeles is located in a beautiful location with lots of outdoor activities to enjoy.

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I bought a rust free set several years back for $250. They need repainted and the drivers plastic door panel has a crack. I thought it was a good deal at the time. They are on a shelf in the garage, havenít touched them since I bought them. Might get around to it some day........maybe
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I DD a 83 Scrambler right now. I use to run a full soft top with yj hard lowers and soft uppers. Between the leaks and noise, I switched to an oem hard half cab but kept the hard lower half doors and no uppers (as they no longer fit). 80 percent of the year I run no top or doors at all. Sometimes I run just the doors and here’s some thoughts.

Aerodynamics: while running a hard half cab on my Scrambler, my top speed without doors is around 65/70MPH, but with the doors ( no uppers) my top speed goes up to 75/80MPH.

Coverage: if I know rain is coming, I throw a tarp over the jeep and rope it snug. A lot of tarps are only 10 feet wide. Without the doors, the lower door opening is exposed to the water run off from the top of the tarp. Doors on and all dry inside.

If your painting them: Are you running full doors as well? If so, make sure the full doors are set up and adjusted perfectly and only then, adjust the half doors to match as well. Only adjust the floating hinges on the half doors so both sets can swap on and off. If you’re lucky, everything will work out perfect but in some cases you will need to adjust the striker pin between door swaps. But at least you’re not messing with hinges or paint at that time

Theft prevention: try to get the 91 to 95 half doors with a key. Remove the internal rod that goes from the inside lock button to the door lock mechanism. If your away, you lock the door from the outside with the key and now when the thief reaches in to unlock the door, it doesn’t work. He can’t open it to lift it off the hinges.
As a slim bonus, he or other thief’s are less likely to crawl over the door to go through the rest of the jeep as that will draw more attention.

Cost: in my area, they run in the 300 to 700 range depending on condition. If you find a good set at a good price, don’t lowball them and use the excuse that you have to factor in the cost of repainting them. It’s not their fault that the doors they’re trying to sell happens to not match your color jeep.
On the other hand if I was painting a jeep, I would definitely want to get both the full doors and the hard half doors painted all at the same time so everything matches. The slight extra cost of painting the half doors at that time versus getting them painted later on should be worth it.


Interior panel matching: on the YJ half door, is the Common colors for the interior panel or black gray tan. So if you have a CJ with a Garnet red interior or maybe a blue interior, you’re either out of luck or you’re going to have to try to paint the plastic which in my opinion does not hold up as well as the correct color. If you are going for a more traditiocommon colors for the interior panel or black gray tan. So if you have a CJ with a Garnet red interior or maybe a blue interior, you’re either out of luck or you’re going to have to try to paint the plastic which in my opinion does not hold up as well as the correct color. If you are going for a more Common color, sometimes you can trade interior panels with other people to get the right color you need.

Soft uppers: if you were running a Bestop soft top for the 82 to 95 CJ/YJ, then you can run the standard best top soft uppers. If you are running a hardtop and want the yj Lowe door with a soft upper, the trick is to use a TJ soft upper with modifications to the third or rear most post so that it fits into the YJ door
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Here are the ones I am looking at locally ($550);

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/p...012530148.html

Quadratec has these ($620 + tax in full steel);

https://www.quadratec.com/products/11040_0X_PG.htm

My paint guy will do these while painting the Jeep for an additional $200. I'd prefer to wait on them but having the lady in getting painted has things a bit more urgent.

The aerodynamic aspect is interesting. I certainly don't mind riding with the doors off but understand the feeling when riding in the passenger side. The extra half bottom would be nice. And she stays in the garage, so no worries on tarping.

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UW91 what part of western Washington are you in? Thatís a great place to go wheeling. I did a four year tour at Coast Guard Air Station Port Angeles in 86-90. I had a blast wheeling my 1986 CJ-7 on the Olympic Peninsula back then. Iíd love to go back one day, Port Angeles is located in a beautiful location with lots of outdoor activities to enjoy.
I'm up by Bellingham. My wife is from Port Townsend and I can only imagine the wheeling that could be done around the Olympics. Whew. Personally, my CJ won't be touching mud and will simply be the ride to enjoy the sun... on pavement. All the work I've put into her has me never wanting to worry about a spec of rust again, especially when being right on the salt.

Thanks for protecting our waters, and for making sure I had all proper safety equipment on my boat, and for making sure I stay away from whales, and a few other things. haha

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Aerodynamics: while running a hard half cab on my Scrambler, my top speed without doors is around 65/70MPH, but with the doors ( no uppers) my top speed goes up to 75/80MPH.

If your painting them: Are you running full doors as well? If so, make sure the full doors are set up and adjusted perfectly and only then, adjust the half doors to match as well. Only adjust the floating hinges on the half doors so both sets can swap on and off. If youíre lucky, everything will work out perfect but in some cases you will need to adjust the striker pin between door swaps. But at least youíre not messing with hinges or paint at that time Great advice and something I am really worried about right now since my current sent of full doors doesn't feel like they properly close as tight as they should. May need to track down a door striker post.

Theft prevention: try to get the 91 to 95 half doors with a key. Remove the internal rod that goes from the inside lock button to the door lock mechanism. If your away, you lock the door from the outside with the key and now when the thief reaches in to unlock the door, it doesnít work. He canít open it to lift it off the hinges. Mine will always be garaged, but great for when we take it out on the town.

Cost: in my area, they run in the 300 to 700 (great to know) range depending on condition. If you find a good set at a good price, donít lowball them and use the excuse that you have to factor in the cost of repainting them. Itís not their fault that the doors theyíre trying to sell happens to not match your color jeep.
On the other hand if I was painting a jeep, I would definitely want to get both the full doors and the hard half doors painted all at the same time so everything matches. The slight extra cost of painting the half doors at that time versus getting them painted later on should be worth it. I want to save on the cost, but am also not picky to the point where I don't simply get a brand new set for a hundred more. I posted the link above to the current set I'm looking at.

Interior panel matching: on the YJ half door, is the Common colors for the interior panel or black gray tan. So if you have a CJ with a Garnet red interior or maybe a blue interior, youíre either out of luck or youíre going to have to try to paint the plastic which in my opinion does not hold up as well as the correct color. If you are going for a more traditiocommon colors for the interior panel or black gray tan. So if you have a CJ with a Garnet red interior or maybe a blue interior, youíre either out of luck or youíre going to have to try to paint the plastic which in my opinion does not hold up as well as the correct color. If you are going for a more Common color, sometimes you can trade interior panels with other people to get the right color you need. I have a black interior (and blue on garnett scares me, lol) so I'm set.

Soft uppers: if you were running a Bestop soft top for the 82 to 95 CJ/YJ, then you can run the standard best top soft uppers. If you are running a hardtop and want the yj Lowe door with a soft upper, the trick is to use a TJ soft upper with modifications to the third or rear most post so that it fits into the YJ door Great intel! I have a hard top and bikini top so I'd only use it for additional wind protection
My responses above in bold. Beautiful write-up and very appreciated. Thinking about swinging it, why not. I'll have her for all my time, may as well give myself the option. Now to figure out what to get and where. Anyone live in Reno? haha Great set down there in red.

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For extra warmth running the half doors, get a couple vacuum cleaner hoses and attach them to the heater outlet. Stuff the other end in under your jacket. Get some seat heaters too. I lived in CO and never put the top on all winter. Heater hoses blow you up like the michelen man. People in cars look at you like your nuts.
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