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JBrandabur 07-13-2020 07:13 PM

Gauge Ideas?
 
Im getting a new speedhut speedo unit with an included tachometer. I figured this was a good upgrade since my temp gauge went out, i have to punch my tach to get it to work, and my speedo/ fuel guages are inaccurate... not a good combo for my DD lol. Anyway does anyone have any cool ideas/ other useful correctly sized gauges to fill my tach hole and clock spot (clock also does not work)? Im open to anything, thanks!

John Strenk 07-13-2020 08:15 PM

Tweeter speakers?

Are you selling the clack and tach?

I call first dibs if the price is right.

BagusJeep 07-13-2020 09:52 PM

I have a vacuum gauge in my J20 (cheap Autometer) in 2" and seeing it spin around is quite amusing.

The oil temperature gauge is not actually wired up, it is just to fill in a hole.

mpulokas 07-13-2020 10:35 PM

I'm planning on adding Vacuum guage. Very steampunk! Right next to my pull lever E-drive vacuum switch.

I saw an air temp guage that has a nice chrome bezel, not a fan of the digital but it looks right otherwise:

http://teltek.us/dual-display-inside...h-ice-warning/

JBrandabur 07-13-2020 10:57 PM

What exactly is the point of having a vacuum gauge? I typically dont mess with the vacuum system so could you tell me what looking at the vacuum pressure tells me about the engine? And i like the ambient temp gauge idea, although i like the analog look so i wonder if its possible to wire up a coolant/oil temp gauge to just display outside temp? Maybe by placing the sensor somewhere behind the dash? Just brainstorming here but if anyone has an idea of how that would work let me know!

mpulokas 07-13-2020 11:03 PM

Vacuum is eye candy mostly... you wanted ideas. Like I said: steampunk.
I guess on carburetor engine it lets you know overall health same as oil pressure and temp just not as urgently critical.

mpulokas 07-13-2020 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JBrandabur (Post 4102000)
i wonder if its possible to wire up a coolant/oil temp gauge to just display outside temp? Maybe by placing the sensor somewhere behind the dash? Just brainstorming here but if anyone has an idea of how that would work let me know!

This could get interesting. The temp range on the default might be issue. Wonder if one could be customized to match the clock- just need a sensor probe to calibrate to.

BagusJeep 07-13-2020 11:47 PM

The vacuum gauge used to be fitted to cars in the late 70s, it was an "economy" gauge. Basically if you drove to maximise vacuum you got maximum economy.

it is also useful in setting the ignition timing, tuning the carb idle etc. Unfortunately with it in the dash it is harder to see.

JBrandabur 07-14-2020 12:01 AM

Thanks for all the ideas, i think that the whole outside temp gauge wont work as you guys said (i did find one that went down to 20 degrees but it gets colder than that in the winter here). So i think ill look into a vacuum gauge and probably put this compass in the other open spot. https://www.boemarine.com/marine-nav...ack-black.html
Its slightly smaller than the hole so i might need to build an adapter plate but that shouldn’t be too hard

JBrandabur 07-14-2020 12:12 AM

Nevermind on the compass, too much metal around so judging by the reviews it wont read direction when mounted in my metal dash.... maybe ill just weld up some phone and wallet holders to cover the holes

BagusJeep 07-14-2020 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JBrandabur (Post 41020035)
Nevermind on the compass, too much metal around so judging by the reviews it wont read direction when mounted in my metal dash.... maybe ill just weld up some phone and wallet holders to cover the holes

We use magnetic compasses in aircraft dashes. They do deviate a bit depending on the metal but there is a label with the corrections marked.

John Strenk 07-14-2020 05:47 AM

Maybe put in an artificial horizon or attitude indicator.
And a Very High Frequency (VHF) Omni-Directional Range (VOR)
(does anyone still use these anymore? )

Maybe a heading indicator (also known as the directional gyro or horizontal situation indicator commonly called the HSI

OK, maybe either one of those will cost more than your Speedhut gauges.

mpulokas 07-14-2020 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by John Strenk (Post 41020093)
Maybe put in an artificial horizon or attitude indicator.
....

OK, maybe either one of those will cost more than your Speedhut gauges.

My attitude fluctuates a lot. It would be really helpful to have one of those. ...Cost?

John Strenk 07-14-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mpulokas (Post 41020121)
My attitude fluctuates a lot. It would be really helpful to have one of those. ...Cost?

It varies...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aircraft-In...0AAOSwSH9e88pT

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sigma-Tek-A...UAAOSw3fZfCRZb

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Castleberry...sAAOSw0eRe7qM4

mpulokas 07-14-2020 07:37 AM

"attitude" not "altitude" I want the Attitude gauge you mentioned.:grin2:

bob4703 07-14-2020 08:33 AM

Don't need no attitude gauge. That's what I have a wife for!

John Strenk 07-14-2020 09:01 AM

i have found that any changes in latitude is directly proportional to changes in attitude. :)

StoneTower 07-14-2020 06:28 PM

If you have access to a drillpress and a fly cutter (adjustable circle cutter) you can easily make yourself a flat spacer that will take up the extra space in the old holes and be able to use slightly smaller gauges.

I used flat ABS plastic that I picked up out of the scrap bin (purchase the scrap for something like $2.50 a pound) at my local plastic store.

You can also make them on the lathe but not everyone has access to one of those.

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Originally Posted by BagusJeep (Post 41019965)
I have a vacuum gauge in my J20 (cheap Autometer) in 2" and seeing it spin around is quite amusing.

The oil temperature gauge is not actually wired up, it is just to fill in a hole.


John Strenk 07-14-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BagusJeep (Post 41020029)
The vacuum gauge used to be fitted to cars in the late 70s, it was an "economy" gauge. Basically if you drove to maximise vacuum you got maximum economy.

it is also useful in setting the ignition timing, tuning the carb idle etc. Unfortunately with it in the dash it is harder to see.

I have a vacuum gauge on my dash also. I find it quite useful.

GusTheCat 07-15-2020 08:03 AM

I also put a vacuum gauge in place of the clock. The clock wasn't working when I bought the Jeep years ago and plan on having it rebuilt after I retire.

JEEPFELLER 07-15-2020 11:13 AM

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Hey John!

I used a Geritol bottle to house my air/ fuel gauge up there on my column.

Over there where my radio is supposed to go in the dash, which someone buggered up the dash. I had a chunk of aluminum street sign that I used hole saws to craft in for 4 gauges. I also chopped out the messed up dash behind it and installed 4 blind nuts behind it.

You might leave the dash alone behind it and cut holes in the new plate that might line up with the old holes.

The modern rectangular radio is now mounted under the dash and has a sheet metal enclosure with a rain shield/ drip guard over the top of it.

My daughter tried to match my dash and got a little carried away with the "texture paint" and got it a little heavy on my plate. But you know, she did help, she was proud and happy.

So y'all look at my daughter's contribution to my dash!

----JEEPFELLER

4Low2G0 07-15-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JBrandabur (Post 41020007)
And i like the ambient temp gauge idea, although i like the analog look so i wonder if its possible to wire up a coolant/oil temp gauge to just display outside temp? Maybe by placing the sensor somewhere behind the dash?

That's stupid. Where do you live that a coolant temp gauge would ever even move reading outside temp??

If that gauge shows anything when reading outside temp. you have bigger issues going on than with you jeep.
if it's 160 outside your screwed.:rofl::fish:

if you want outside temp look at Volvo 240 or VDO gauges for analog outside temp

JEEPFELLER 07-15-2020 09:14 PM

I really looked hard through my many many pics.

Sorry, I could not find the pic I took at a car show.

A feller with a old Ford truck had an empty gauge hole.

A very realistic looking mouse held the hole at about 5 and 7 o'clock with his front feet as his little head poked/ peered through. A fake gauge face and bezel dangled below the hole.

I thought it was cool anyway!

----JEEPFELLER


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