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post #1 of 22 Old 02-03-2009, 02:31 PM Thread Starter
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frame off restoration...underside of tub

im working on a frame off restoration of my 83 cj7 and was wondering if i should go through the trouble of paying much attention to the underside of the tub. i am going to herculiner the inside of the tub and was thinking about maybe doing both sides or just going with a simple undercoat what do you guys think from experience?

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post #2 of 22 Old 02-03-2009, 02:37 PM
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If there is any rust rmove it then herculiner the underside.

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thanks thats what i had planned on doing but i gues i just needed some reassurance. has anyone ever used the roll on herculiner is it as hard and time consuming as i anticipate
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Me and alot of the guys used this:

http://www.tptools.com/p/2600,233_U-...Liner-Kit.html

Very easy and comes with the spray gun, about $109 to my door. Sprayed it last year and in this Hot Florida all year with NO top it still looks great.

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I cleaned it all up and used Duplicolor... came out sweet.

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^^ Duplicolor paint or is that the Duplicolor bed liner? How much did it take to cover that area, quantity and $$$?

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I would spray it, not roll it. Too many curves and hidden channels. I just used rubberized undercoating on mine, but rarely put it on the road in the winter.

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thanks thats what i had planned on doing but i gues i just needed some reassurance. has anyone ever used the roll on herculiner is it as hard and time consuming as i anticipate
Clean off all dirt, mud, rust, grease etc (be sure you do this thoroughly) and then treat any rust with POR's metal ready if you really want to do a good job. What I did was to then lay down a coat of "Rustoleum's Hammered Enamel" and let it dry for a few days. Then I hit it with the Herculiner and roll on pad and brush. I used the enamel first as a barrier just in case the rubber of the herculiner peeled or got cut and allowed moisture to seep in between it and the body. The herculiner was very easy to put on but pick up a cheap disposable rainsuit and long kitchen gloves and goggles. DONT GET IT ON YOUR SKIN.

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The duplicolor bedliner was a gallon kit at one of the local stores and was like 80 bucks... I bought a thing of disposable gloves as well. I went around with all the cracks and crevices with a cheapo paint brush and then rolled on a thin coat... I then did the same thing again thicker... it came out nice for not a whole lot of money and effort.

I then used herculiner on the inside of the tub... essentially making a bedliner sandwich... I coated the firewall(inside) and the inside top of the tub walls with black zerorust paint for a nice even finish all around... all black so it really stands out against the silver. I think the duplicolor went on better then the herc and I have been using herc for years.

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this may be a dumb question but what about the seat holes on the inside of the tub does the liner not gunk the holes up or should i not worry about them
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You can put golf tees in the holes, spray your coats, then just pull the tees. Had no problems at all, also some people used the rolable ear plugs that expands back to form.

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i blasted mine, primering with eastwood rust encapsulator and rhino linering top and bottom of the floor.

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Regardless of what level of restoration you're doing I would definately NOT try to cut corners on the underbody simply because you can't see it..........it's the one area that's going to be more prone to stone and salt damage - which means rust! I'd clear it of ALL rust, coat it all in Rustbullet and then undercoat (3M or Zeibart) or Durabak it (smooth version of Herculiner). It'd be foolish to spend a ton of time and money restoring a vehicle only to have the floorboards rot out.

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Regardless of what level of restoration you're doing I would definately NOT try to cut corners on the underbody simply because you can't see it..........it's the one area that's going to be more prone to stone and salt damage - which means rust! I'd clear it of ALL rust, It'd be foolish to spend a ton of time and money restoring a vehicle only to have the floorboards rot out.

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My 86 was Z-bart undercoated by the original owner, BUT I've seen many old pics of new CJ's with the underside just painted the same as the body color.....not saying to do that, but can we confirm that was how they came?

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