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post #31 of 38 Old 09-11-2019, 07:52 AM
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To answer the BS Kid's last question--what you may be hearing is your starter solenoid clicking from either a weak battery or a seized engine. Did you remove the spark plugs, lubricate the cylinders, and rotate the engine by hand?


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post #32 of 38 Old 09-11-2019, 08:05 AM
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Bought a repair manual and figured out the firing order. When I turn on ignition there is a clicking grating sound from what looks like the fuel pump. Any ideas?

Electric pump or mechanical motor mounted pump? If electric, the pump could be seized up or just hammering away trying to pull prime. the engine mounted fuel pump is on the opposite wide from the starter so unlikely that you are hearing a bad solenoid making noise.


OP, you should have enough posts now to start uploading pictures of what you are working on, as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, more when we are trying to visualize what you are describing.
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But what if it is a "right hand drive" vehicle? I have always referenced the left and right as I was standing in front of the engine since I can't work on the engine sitting in the seat. And cylinder numbering is another confusion (Fords).

I too reference the engine from standing in front of it. As for engine cylinder numbering, yeah it would be good if the oem's could make up their mind for that, 1/2 the oem's number by the bank starting with the forward cylinder (ford) while others (gm mopar) number from the bottom by the order of the connecting rods on the crank. then you get into ford small blocks where the firing order is determined by the camshaft that is installed.

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But what if it is a "right hand drive" vehicle? I have always referenced the left and right as I was standing in front of the engine since I can't work on the engine sitting in the seat. And cylinder numbering is another confusion (Fords).
Doesn't matter as long as everyone knows it's right hand drive. Just that the left is now passenger and the right is now driver's side.
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I used to have a Ford F-250 with the Triton V-8. It kept throwing a code telling me bad fuel injector on cylinder #3. So I replaced the second one back on the drivers side (LHD vehicle). Code was still there, then I discovered on Fords it is the third one back on the passenger side.
Now I will sit back and wait for OP's pictures.

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But what if it is a "right hand drive" vehicle? I have always referenced the left and right as I was standing in front of the engine since I can't work on the engine sitting in the seat. And cylinder numbering is another confusion (Fords).
Itís right hand drive for the obvious reason. You are sitting on the right hand side of the vehicle when facing forward. While that is true, it doesnít change that fact that the right side of the engine hasnít now moved to the left hand side.

How is Ford confusing? On a 302/351W cylinder #1 is on the right side up front followed by cylinders 2, 3 and 4 as you move back to the firewall. Move to the front left for cylinder 5 which would then be followed by 6, 7 & 8.

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Bought a repair manual and figured out the firing order. When I turn on ignition there is a clicking grating sound from what looks like the fuel pump. Any ideas?
You need to identify the component. Either that or post a picture for identification.



The V6 came stock with a mechanical fuel pump mounted on the timing chain cover.


The V6 used a GM solenoid integrated on the starter.

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