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post #1 of 8 Old 03-31-2020, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Difference between T5 and T176 throw out bearing??

Hi all, I hope you all are safe and sound. I have not found an answer to my question (using the keywords I chose), so I am looking to the community for some help.

I am getting close for my T5 to NP435 swap. Transmission will be completely assembled today, and I am looking to order the rest of my needed parts: pilot bushing (Novak or AA), a new 1-1/8" clutch, transmission/tc mount, and new throw out bearing.

I have two questions I need some guidance on.
1. For my throw out bearing will Napa be sufficient in product quality? If no, suggested alternatives?
2. Is there a difference between the throw out bearing form the T5 and T176? (I have a bellhousing for a T176 with arm)

If you have used the AA NP435/D300 adapter and have some sage advice to impart about the process, I will gleefully listen.


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I don't think there is a difference. But if you are unsure, Novak sells and adjustable TO bearing.
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if you are changing the clutch disc you should change it all. the pressure plate,clutch disc, and the throw out bearing. speaking from experience change the clutch fork while out also. the P.O. of my cj change the clutch kit. a year later i had to pull to change the fork. if not one part will fail and will be taking the transmission out again. double check but i believe the t150 used the same size shaft and spline count. so a clutch kit for a 79 and older cj with a t150 transmission will work.

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if you are changing the clutch disc you should change it all. the pressure plate,clutch disc, and the throw out bearing. speaking from experience change the clutch fork while out also. the P.O. of my cj change the clutch kit. a year later i had to pull to change the fork. if not one part will fail and will be taking the transmission out again. double check but i believe the t150 used the same size shaft and spline count. so a clutch kit for a 79 and older cj with a t150 transmission will work.

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The arm failed? I have never heard of this before. I am not doubting you, I'm just saying this is a first hearing this. That is interesting.

I agree with changing all parts.

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if you are changing the clutch disc you should change it all. the pressure plate,clutch disc, and the throw out bearing. speaking from experience change the clutch fork while out also. the P.O. of my cj change the clutch kit. a year later i had to pull to change the fork. if not one part will fail and will be taking the transmission out again. double check but i believe the t150 used the same size shaft and spline count. so a clutch kit for a 79 and older cj with a t150 transmission will work.

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The arm failed? I have never heard of this before. I am not doubting you, I'm just saying this is a first hearing this. That is interesting.

I agree with changing all parts.
I don't know how quick this happens to a new clutch fork but I've replaced a couple of 40 year old clutch forks on my CJ's before. On one the push rod wore right through the cup on the end.

Usually it's just normal wear. I mean if you put a new one on 10 years ago you probably don't need to replace it. Look it over carefully for severe wear.


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the arm failed where the linkage pushes against the arm. the linkage looked like it was replaced with the new low quality china stuff that had a sharp point on the end of the rounded surface. it actually wore a hole in the arm. i was driving then heard a small pop and felt the clutch loose about half of the pedal. when i got home o found abut half of the linkage sticking through a hole in the arm

i also measured the thickness of the arm on the inner pivot point and all the years of use it was about half the thickness it should have been

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Well good to know! Good stuff here,
I will check and measure my fork, but probably just replace if there is any doubt.

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Here's why you need to replace the fork. I used a Crown replacement made in Israel.
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