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post #1 of 20 Old 07-31-2019, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
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Cj7 axle help please

Ok so a little back story here so y’all understand where I’m at I’ve got a 83 cj7 lifted sitting on 35s almost stock 258 for now with stock axles or what’s left of them I blew up the rear axle the other night instead of fixing that axle I wanna pull the axles out of my 78cherokee chief but I’m running into some problems maybe I just don’t know what I’m doing at all maybe I’m taking on too much at once I really don’t know but first I want to convert the Dana 44s from the 6 lug to 5 lug so I can still run my current tire and rim setup next problem is the rear drum brakes are shot on the 44 so I’d like to switch to disc brakes all the way around I’ve got to do all of this on a budget and am lost so anyone with any advice or experience would be greatly appreciated

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post #2 of 20 Old 07-31-2019, 09:37 PM
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The knuckles and out from you dana 30 should bolt onto your fsj 44. you will need to have the rear axle shaft either custom made, or you may find a machine shop that will weld up and redrill to 5 on 5.5. but... is you cherokee a quadratrac? that offset quadratrac 44 rear axle won't work behind a center out tcase. also going to need to fab up new outboard spring hangers for the front axle as the spring pads are wider apart than the current dana 30.

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post #3 of 20 Old 08-01-2019, 01:45 AM
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You would probable be better off fixing your stock AMC 20 rearend. Weld the tubes to the center section and Moser 1 piece axles.
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post #4 of 20 Old 08-01-2019, 05:13 AM Thread Starter
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Ok so the front axle sounds like it’s not gonna be bad what will I have to do to make the rear axle work it is the quadratrack I’ve got the spring purches ordered so I can relocate them on both axles
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Ok so the front axle sounds like its not gonna be bad what will I have to do to make the rear axle work it is the quadratrack Ive got the spring purches ordered so I can relocate them on both axles
If it's driven on the road, you'll be better off just finding another rear axle. Are your Cherokee axles NT or WT? That will make a difference if you are looking for a matching rear.

For the front; if you want to convert it to 5 lug, I would pull the hubs and check the spindles. If they are the correct ones (you'll need to do some research to get the correct measurement), then you can just put F150 hubs/rotors on it and be done.

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I’m thinking it’s the wide track I’m gonna have to measure it again I honestly can’t remember I’ve read so much trying to figure all this out
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Yea it’s wide track
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Yea its wide track
For a rear, you would be best off to swap to a centered diff and the WT Cherokee will be a good width to match to a full size (1/2 ton) rear axle. A Ford 9" or 8.8" (F150/Bronco) would be a good choice.

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post #9 of 20 Old 08-02-2019, 06:07 AM
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You should consider a beefier axle with those size tires. If your front is a wide track, then Id suggest getting a centered Dana 44 for the rear. I got one for mine out of a 95 Isuzu Rodeo. It has disc brakes and was also geared to match my front axle/diff. There are also other donor options that have D44s in them.


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post #10 of 20 Old 08-03-2019, 08:43 AM Thread Starter
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I’m gonna see what I can find at the local junk yard my next hurdle is the front axle will can I switch everything from the knuckles out off my dana 30 onto the new 44 so I can keep with the 5 lug pattern all the way around
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post #11 of 20 Old 08-03-2019, 07:16 PM
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You're going to need to do more to the front axle than swap it to five lug to use it. The front springs will need to be outboarded, steering will have to be considered as will a few other small things.
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post #12 of 20 Old 08-03-2019, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
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I’ve got the kit to outboard it on the way so that part is taken care of the steering I’m assuming I can use most of the steering components off the Cherokee chief may have to change out the Pittman arm and the bushings is there anything else I need to think about
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Explorer 8.8 is a tough rearend but a bit wider at 59.5 in.
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post #14 of 20 Old 08-04-2019, 08:43 AM
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I just bought a 70s passenger side drop Dana 44 that came out of a Wagoneer. Im going to cut one side and weld the C back on, the end result will be 58 wms to wms, to match my EB Ford 9 that is also 58. The guy I bought the axle from had a kit in his shop that included everything needed to convert the six lug to five lug, so the Jeep wheels will work. The kit cost $400 and I plan on buying one myself. See attached picture for the company info.
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post #15 of 20 Old 08-04-2019, 08:47 AM
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Nice looking Jeep. What size and brand are those tires? I know they are 35’s but I’d like to know the actual size. How much lift are you running, and do the tires rub anywhere?

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