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post #1 of 41 Old 02-12-2020, 08:10 AM Thread Starter
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CJ5 tailgate question

Hi all... I posted this question on my build thread but thought I would post here as well as I may garner a wider audience.


I've just installed the tailgate on my CJ5. (As most of you know, the tailgates on the CJ5 and CJ7 are completely different.) Everything went well until I opened the tailgate and attempted to hook the chains to the end of the tailgate to hold it open in a roughly horizontal position and realized I did not know how the hooks were suppose to be positioned to hold the tailgate open without scratching or otherwise damaging the tailgate itself.


So, if anyone out there has a picture (or can take a picture) of how Jeep intended the hooks to be placed on an open tailgate, please post them here for me.


Much appreciated and thanks in advance!


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All I can offer is I've had the exact same problem except my tailgate isn't painted yet so no harm no foul, but the hook on the driver side did deform the sheet-metal. I've found the hooks only fit two different ways and neither is great. One is better than the other but still isn't right. Useless info I know, but at least you know you are not alone haha.

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Here is how they should be hooked. Make sure that you have the correct hook on the correct side as they should be bent differently.
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Here is how they should be hooked. Make sure that you have the correct hook on the correct side as they should be bent differently.

Thanks Fourtrail... I've seen that image on a general search of the internet but was not sure if that was correct. Still looks like it could do some (minor) damage and scratching of the tailgate though. You would have thought that Jeep would have come up with a better solution to hold up your tailgate! I'll give it a try... the hooks I have do have a left and right bend to them, but not the sharp end as shown.

BTW, is that your Jeep or just a picture you found? Just curious.

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Thanks Fourtrail... I've seen that image on a general search of the internet but was not sure if that was correct. Still looks like it could do some (minor) damage and scratching of the tailgate though. You would have thought that Jeep would have come up with a better solution to hold up your tailgate! I'll give it a try... the hooks I have do have a left and right bend to them, but not the sharp end as shown.

BTW, is that your Jeep or just a picture you found? Just curious.

That is an image from earlycj-5.com. My CJ-5 that has a tailgate is in storage at my parents and I found that image before I had a chance to drive over and try to take a picture. My '6 has the same tailgate, but it is bolted closed as I don't have any chains for it yet.


When the tailgate was designed it was a utilitarian feature and I doubt that the Willy engineers were worried about a scratch or two.

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When the tailgate was designed it was a utilitarian feature and I doubt that the Willy engineers were worried about a scratch or two.
You're absolutely right... it's my cross to bear to try to keep lipstick on this pig.

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You could find some of that clear vinyl manufacturers usually apply over the paint near wheel wells or along the front edge of the grill to prevent rock dings. Since it's clear, unless you were looking for it, then it would blend in. I think 3M makes it.
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You could find some of that clear vinyl manufacturers usually apply over the paint near wheel wells or along the front edge of the grill to prevent rock dings. Since it's clear, unless you were looking for it, then it would blend in. I think 3M makes it.
That's a good idea... I actually thought about getting some of that stuff to put between the tailgate and where it contacts the tailgate frame too. I've used it before... I got it off of eBay and think it was 3M. I don't have any at this time... I'll look to see where the hooks may contact the paint and see how much I may need to order.
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Im glad this question was asked. I never really thought about it before, and I certainly wasn't using the hooks right. I immediately went out to the garage and had my mind blown. Now the tailgate sits perfectly level and the majority of the load is put closer in to the tailgate. Thanks a bunch!
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Well I'll be dang... it works... but it certainly was not intuitive as to how to hook those chains... Jeep should have provided a picture in the owner's manual. I've got to remove a link (hard to see in the picture) and put on the chain covers, but that's how its done. The hook is not perfectly in line with the chain when open, but no more than I'll actually use the tailgate, that's no big deal and the tailgate is level when open. As far as the paint goes, there is not enough area affected by the hook to worry about. I'm building this Jeep to drive, so a few minor scratches should not bother me that much (I hope)... but as I said, the tailgate will not get used that often and I'll certainly never put any significant weight on it.
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Dang, I miss having a fold down seat on my CJ5 like that...

Always wanted to get that 'extended bed' for that also...
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Probably don't need to remove a full link, just replace the threaded link with the correct light bend close link. You may need to bend a bit on the hook to get it to fit correctly, we all know how close aftermarket parts come to the originals..






If you do plan to ever sit on the tailgate, best to put a solid rod or piece of pipe through the looped end as it will bend down in the middle.

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If you do plan to ever sit on the tailgate, best to put a solid rod or piece of pipe through the looped end as it will bend down in the middle.
True story.

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Probably don't need to remove a full link, just replace the threaded link with the correct light bend close link. You may need to bend a bit on the hook to get it to fit correctly, we all know how close aftermarket parts come to the originals..

If you do plan to ever sit on the tailgate, best to put a solid rod or piece of pipe through the looped end as it will bend down in the middle.

The top picture is with the threaded link attached to the "second" link in the chain and works out perfect... just need to cut that extra link off. Yeah, I may try to do a little bending on the hooks to see if I can get them to line up better with the chain. And no worries about the tailgate... I'll keep my fat a$$ off of it... I'll just have to sit somewhere else.

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Oh, BTW about cutting the chain... the chain was originally for a early model Chevrolet so I anticipated having to cut some of it off as the tailgate for a Chevrolet truck is taller than a CJ5 tailgate.

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