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post #1 of 14 Old 07-03-2018, 01:43 PM Thread Starter
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CJ3A restoration thoughts

Seeking thoughts and opinions.

I rescued a CJ3A from a farm field. It had been used as target practice.

I've restored it to driving conditions.
New floor and body channels
Changed it to 12 volt.
Got the original GO DEVIL engine working
New steering knuckles and so on and so on.
I even have the original wheels, just not on the jeep currently.

My question is.

Should I continue to restore it as original?

Or toss that idea and plan on putting it on my JKs axles to update the steering, brakes, and suspension. Consider a newer powertrain.

What's the thoughts?
Keep original?
If I keep it original, do you think it will have any value?

Thanks

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post #2 of 14 Old 07-03-2018, 01:49 PM
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JK axles are way too wide for that flatty IHMO. Look for a narrow track CJ front axle, Dana 30 disc brakes. Your dana 44 rear is planty stout or you can try to find a 71 offset flanged 44 rear. For powertrain, look at either a buick or 4.3 chevy v-6, plenty of power, easy to swap in and plenty of power. Add power steering and you will have a good driver.

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Go full original and do it well and it will have lots of value. If you change engines, axles etc etc etc it will not have the same value. If you want something to wheel or to use as a daily driver, I recommend you sell it and buy another Jeep such as a CJ5 or CJ7.

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You can do a bit of both.
Upgrade the brakes to 11" and a dual MC. This will really improve breaking and neither are visible.
You can rebuild the Ross steering box and bell crank. you can switch to a single drag link/tie rod set up. A big improvement over stock and not noticeable to the untrained eye. Other option is a Saginaw manual steering box.

Spring eye bushings and later two piece shackles will improve steering and the ride.
And of course, turn signals....

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my CJ3A is mostly stock, with a 12V alternator and front disc brakes. There are some M38 and MB parts on it, but I may ditch the green paint soon and go bright. Love your yellow!

It is a different drive to a CJ7, slow and woolly steering but a period charmer. I have recently rebuilt the Ross steering box and linkages and it is a lot better, only heavy at parking speeds. The L134 engine is not powerful but it pulls at low rpm and is more than enough off road. On highway it is not capable of a high top speed but it would frighten me to death.

Early Willys are climbing in value if reasonably original, and an engine and axle swap would harm its value so I am keeping it stock.
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The old flatties are what they are, a simple vehicle made to meander through the world simply and effectively.

You could spend thousands of dollars, and hundreds of hours modifying it, but in the end, it will never be as wonderful as it is stock.

I've had both (and a myriad in between) a CJ2A isn't a JK, and a JK will never be a CJ2A. (And there's absolutely nothing wrong w/ that)

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Seeking thoughts and opinions.

I rescued a CJ3A from a farm field. It had been used as target practice.

Should I continue to restore it as original?

If I keep it original, do you think it will have any value?

Yes, and yes.


What you have is a very nostalgic vehicle that was invented and built by the Greatest Generation that ever existed in the United States. It is by far one of the simplest purpose built vehicles ever designed by mankind that everyone appreciates and wishes they had, including myself. Keep it stock as much as possible and you will thank yourself later on in life.
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Should I continue to restore it as original?

What's the thoughts?
Keep original?
If I keep it original, do you think it will have any value?
I'm with the restore it crowd. Keep it as original as you can. Although the yellow paint looks good, I'd be thinking a more OEM period color.

As far as value: It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, at the time you want/need to sell it. And it would be rare that you would see any glimmer of a profit, considering all the work it'll take to restore it. These are not exotics, vintage muscle cars, or rare birds. But there is a buyer for everything out there at the right price.
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Go full original and do it well and it will have lots of value. If you change engines, axles etc etc etc it will not have the same value. If you want something to wheel or to use as a daily driver, I recommend you sell it and buy another Jeep such as a CJ5 or CJ7.

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I want to use it as a Sunday driver and take it out to play occasionally. I don't want to trash it. I'd like to make it last another 32 years. Have a 100 year old CJ3
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I'm with the restore it crowd. Keep it as original as you can. Although the yellow paint looks good, I'd be thinking a more OEM period color.

As far as value: It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, at the time you want/need to sell it. And it would be rare that you would see any glimmer of a profit, considering all the work it'll take to restore it. These are not exotics, vintage muscle cars, or rare birds. But there is a buyer for everything out there at the right price.
This was it's original color.
I'd like to use it again.
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OK. Anyone know where I can get the two front amber marker lights?

Kaiser used to have them. But now I cannot locate them.
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OK. Anyone know where I can get the two front amber marker lights?



Try Walk's 4 Wheel Drive: https://walcks4wd.com/catalogsearch/...+parking+light
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my CJ3A is mostly stock, with a 12V alternator and front disc brakes. There are some M38 and MB parts on it, but I may ditch the green paint soon and go bright. Love your yellow!

It is a different drive to a CJ7, slow and woolly steering but a period charmer. I have recently rebuilt the Ross steering box and linkages and it is a lot better, only heavy at parking speeds. The L134 engine is not powerful but it pulls at low rpm and is more than enough off road. On highway it is not capable of a high top speed but it would frighten me to death.

Early Willys are climbing in value if reasonably original, and an engine and axle swap would harm its value so I am keeping it stock.

Beautiful
Love the brush guards on the lights.
Live in Bali? I've been there. Used to live in Surabaya once upon a time.

Where did you mount your spare tire.
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Beautiful
Love the brush guards on the lights.
Live in Bali? I've been there. Used to live in Surabaya once upon a time.

Where did you mount your spare tire.
The light guarsd are M38.

The spare tire is on the back. It stops the tilgate openng so I am thinking of a side mount.
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