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Bumperette mounting holes don’t align to rear crossmember, which holes are correct?
Picked up oem bumperettes and the holes don’t align to my rear cross member. It would take some pretty serious force to get them to fit (and then the mountain panel would not be flat)m to the crossmember) and they seem to be correctly shaped.
Are there different bumperettes for different years? The seller listed as 76-95
The holes look close but they are not, at least 1 inch off horizontally each.

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Are there different bumperettes for different years? The seller listed as 76-95
The holes look close but they are not, at least 1 inch off horizontally each.

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Originally Posted by keith460
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That's because those Bumperettes are for the Jeep YJ , 87-95, and not the CJ.
Jeep CJ shown:
Attachment 3977987Attachment 3977989Attachment 3977991
Your missing the iconic boot scraper from the loop.
Jeep CJ shown:
Attachment 3977987Attachment 3977989Attachment 3977991
Your missing the iconic boot scraper from the loop.
Thanks for the info and the photos Keith.
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Do these seem to be the correct style? It seems the only ones that look like yours are listed for earlier CJ models.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Willys-....c101195.m1851
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Willys-....c101195.m1851
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Don't know if they are the same bolt pattern as the Jeep CJ's.
There's a forum member on here who I sold a pair of Jeep YJ Bumperettes to, that fit the CJ bolt pattern on the rear cross member. I drilled new holes so they would fit both the CJ and YJ hole patterns. I'll see if I can locate that thread or photos I had....
....I gave them to MikeyDeezy here: https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/r.../#post40501235
There's a forum member on here who I sold a pair of Jeep YJ Bumperettes to, that fit the CJ bolt pattern on the rear cross member. I drilled new holes so they would fit both the CJ and YJ hole patterns. I'll see if I can locate that thread or photos I had....
....I gave them to MikeyDeezy here: https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/r.../#post40501235
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Bolt one side
Pull the other till the bolts line up.
I don't think an inch would distort them.
Wah-Lah! Bumperettes!
Only a few fellers might notice the "fitment" and what they should fit.
When they switched to Hummers, They wanted me to have a set of M-151 Bumperettes from the Jeeps (1964-1986?), I hauled them around for many years.
I decided to use them on my CJ2A, mock up of a WWII MB.
In my "Mocking" I had to do a lot to get my spare to the rear, a fuel can, use the Bumperettes (which look much like yours, both without the "Tang")....And still be able to use the tailgate (non-existent in WWII)---AND....Tuck things in tight and tried to hide structure that shouldn't be there.
Well-----I welded them puppies on----they're happy with their home!---I'm happy!-----Speaking for the rest of you---Y'all are happy!
It's whatever makes you happy!
----JEEPFELLER
Pull the other till the bolts line up.
I don't think an inch would distort them.
Wah-Lah! Bumperettes!
Only a few fellers might notice the "fitment" and what they should fit.
When they switched to Hummers, They wanted me to have a set of M-151 Bumperettes from the Jeeps (1964-1986?), I hauled them around for many years.
I decided to use them on my CJ2A, mock up of a WWII MB.
In my "Mocking" I had to do a lot to get my spare to the rear, a fuel can, use the Bumperettes (which look much like yours, both without the "Tang")....And still be able to use the tailgate (non-existent in WWII)---AND....Tuck things in tight and tried to hide structure that shouldn't be there.
Well-----I welded them puppies on----they're happy with their home!---I'm happy!-----Speaking for the rest of you---Y'all are happy!
It's whatever makes you happy!
----JEEPFELLER
Many older Jeep models also have the "flange" on one edge. Keith's comment that they are a "boot scraper" is as good a guess as anyone's. The debate is whether the flange is pointed up or down. Jeep attached them with the flange down in later models. Older models tend to show them pointed up. You may find interesting the original purpose shown in the picture which was to prevent jack-knifing when towing.
I am not aware of any source for new flanged bumperettes. Correct OEM bumperettes for 1976-86 CJs are not hard to find used. Ebay often has them, part-outs on Craigslist, J W Jeep, Collins Bros and many others will have the correct part you need. Like all OEM CJ parts these are getting higher in price, but I suggest you will be happier than making an incorrect YJ part fit.
Cheers,
JS
I am not aware of any source for new flanged bumperettes. Correct OEM bumperettes for 1976-86 CJs are not hard to find used. Ebay often has them, part-outs on Craigslist, J W Jeep, Collins Bros and many others will have the correct part you need. Like all OEM CJ parts these are getting higher in price, but I suggest you will be happier than making an incorrect YJ part fit.
Cheers,
JS
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Many older Jeep models also have the "flange" on one edge. Keith's comment that they are a "boot scraper" is as good a guess as anyone's. The debate is whether the flange is pointed up or down. Jeep attached them with the flange down in later models. Older models tend to show them pointed up.
That's always a debate and my take on it is AMC/Jeep mounted the flange facing downward for liability reasons.
Mounting it downward, it becomes offset from the rear cross member horizontal lines and looks to be mounted upside down at the bolted area.


Just my opinion but I like how the military required it to be mounted and will be doing the same.
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thanks for the info all. I will probably look around for a correct pair.
My concern is that most of the bumperettes that look like mine, are labeled for cj7. But most of the ones that look like Keith's, are labeled for earlier CJ models. Hard to tell which ones will have the right hold sizes. But at least now I knwo what I'm looking for.
My concern is that most of the bumperettes that look like mine, are labeled for cj7. But most of the ones that look like Keith's, are labeled for earlier CJ models. Hard to tell which ones will have the right hold sizes. But at least now I knwo what I'm looking for.
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If you have no use for the ones you have and you do not have to have it 100% period correct, you could weld (or have someone weld) and grind smooth a little extension on each side of the flange and drill new bolt holes in the correct location. You can also weld up the existing holes at the same time. It is really easy (use a copper plate to back up the hole and fill it in). The hardest part might be finding a piece of metal that is the same gauge (thickness) as the bumperette.
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thanks for the info all. I will probably look around for a correct pair.
My concern is that most of the bumperettes that look like mine, are labeled for cj7. But most of the ones that look like Keith's, are labeled for earlier CJ models. Hard to tell which ones will have the right hold sizes. But at least now I knwo what I'm looking for.
My concern is that most of the bumperettes that look like mine, are labeled for cj7. But most of the ones that look like Keith's, are labeled for earlier CJ models. Hard to tell which ones will have the right hold sizes. But at least now I knwo what I'm looking for.
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Here's a little more of what I have experienced.
PIC 1 and 2
PIC 1) Dodge Command Car (furthest) ----entered being about the same time as Jeeps 1940 (The Jeep here is a really early model)
PIC 2) -back of the Command Car---Bumperettes
PIC 3) same early early Jeep---sorta flat with the ends bent in on 45s---attached to another metal piece
Pic 4) MB or GPW WWII
Pic 5) M-38 Flipped Korean War
Pic 6) friends M-38
Pic 7) early M-151--has same configuration as the '50s M-38
Pic 8) M-151 Same deal
I did notice while in the ARMY that the M-151s bumperettes also were load bearing and supported the weight of the Fuel Can and also the spare tire
Other Jeeps throughout history had nothing riding on top of the bumperettes that I have seen.
During my search in my pics and on the net, I never came across the style that were on the Ranger Battalion Jeeps (like I put on mine in post 7--same flat silhouette when flipped)
----JEEPFELLER
PIC 1 and 2
PIC 1) Dodge Command Car (furthest) ----entered being about the same time as Jeeps 1940 (The Jeep here is a really early model)
PIC 2) -back of the Command Car---Bumperettes
PIC 3) same early early Jeep---sorta flat with the ends bent in on 45s---attached to another metal piece
Pic 4) MB or GPW WWII
Pic 5) M-38 Flipped Korean War
Pic 6) friends M-38
Pic 7) early M-151--has same configuration as the '50s M-38
Pic 8) M-151 Same deal
I did notice while in the ARMY that the M-151s bumperettes also were load bearing and supported the weight of the Fuel Can and also the spare tire
Other Jeeps throughout history had nothing riding on top of the bumperettes that I have seen.
During my search in my pics and on the net, I never came across the style that were on the Ranger Battalion Jeeps (like I put on mine in post 7--same flat silhouette when flipped)
----JEEPFELLER
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Here's a little more of what I have experienced.
PIC 1 and 2
PIC 1) Dodge Command Car (furthest) ----entered being about the same time as Jeeps 1940 (The Jeep here is a really early model)
PIC 2) -back of the Command Car---Bumperettes
PIC 3) same early early Jeep---sorta flat with the ends bent in on 45s---attached to another metal piece
Pic 4) MB or GPW WWII
Pic 5) M-38 Flipped Korean War
Pic 6) friends M-38
Pic 7) early M-151--has same configuration as the '50s M-38
Pic 8) M-151 Same deal
I did notice while in the ARMY that the M-151s bumperettes also were load bearing and supported the weight of the Fuel Can and also the spare tire
Other Jeeps throughout history had nothing riding on top of the bumperettes that I have seen.
During my search in my pics and on the net, I never came across the style that were on the Ranger Battalion Jeeps (like I put on mine in post 7--same flat silhouette when flipped)
----JEEPFELLER
PIC 1 and 2
PIC 1) Dodge Command Car (furthest) ----entered being about the same time as Jeeps 1940 (The Jeep here is a really early model)
PIC 2) -back of the Command Car---Bumperettes
PIC 3) same early early Jeep---sorta flat with the ends bent in on 45s---attached to another metal piece
Pic 4) MB or GPW WWII
Pic 5) M-38 Flipped Korean War
Pic 6) friends M-38
Pic 7) early M-151--has same configuration as the '50s M-38
Pic 8) M-151 Same deal
I did notice while in the ARMY that the M-151s bumperettes also were load bearing and supported the weight of the Fuel Can and also the spare tire
Other Jeeps throughout history had nothing riding on top of the bumperettes that I have seen.
During my search in my pics and on the net, I never came across the style that were on the Ranger Battalion Jeeps (like I put on mine in post 7--same flat silhouette when flipped)
----JEEPFELLER
Jeepfeller that is an amazing post right there! I won’t lie, there’s definitely something special about those earlier military jeeps! Really nice shots and good info too on the bumperettes. Thanks.
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I have seen them fit. Just loosely mount the 2 inner bolts and then pull the bumperette into alignment for the outer. Snug all 4 and you should be good to go until you find actual CJ versions.
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