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post #1 of 30 Old 06-21-2021, 02:00 AM Thread Starter
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I got a dana 44 . And I need to order some seals and verify something. For the axle tubes out of an 86 there's one shorter side and one longer right ?


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post #2 of 30 Old 06-21-2021, 08:16 AM
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I’ve got one torn apart in the garage. Give me a hot minute and I’ll circle back.

Edit; Driver side tube from cast to outboard part of flange = 20 1/4”
Passenger 16 1/2”
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I'm running one as well if you need anything else

'82 CJ-8
258/AX15/D300
OME YJ 2.5"/31s
D30/D44/3.73s/Truetracs
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Good good ty. My dumb arse tossed the seal retainers now im trying to find some. I had inner seal like things in there. They look like all rubber to me. Don't know if its age or not

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And also the outer seal retainers

Edit i found an outer seal kit
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Good good ty. My dumb arse tossed the seal retainers now im trying to find some. I had inner seal like things in there. They look like all rubber to me. Don't know if its age or not

Edit.
And also the outer seal retainers

Edit i found an outer seal kit
Edit i ordered 2 inner seals for an early 70s 44. Thing is why is the one all rubber i don't even see a spring on what was in there

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I have a list of parts for the 86 rear dana 44 on my website, lsxjeep.com. shows the seals, retainers, bearings, and other parts if you want to put a disc brake kit on it.


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I have a list of parts for the 86 rear dana 44 on my website, lsxjeep.com. shows the seals, retainers, bearings, and other parts if you want to put a disc brake kit on it.


ignore the amazon affiliate, i'm not anymore. just helpful information.
Cool , ty !

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I have a list of parts for the 86 rear dana 44 on my website, lsxjeep.com. shows the seals, retainers, bearings, and other parts if you want to put a disc brake kit on it.


ignore the amazon affiliate, i'm not anymore. just helpful information.
So you are not running an inner seal on the 44 ?

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Nope, never was one in my rear axle housing, the seals on the end of the tubes keep the oil in, there aren't even any bosses in the pumpkin housing for an inner seal. Also, the rear axle is vented on the passenger side tube instead of the pumpkin because there is no inner seal in it. The reason for this is so the oil lubricates the bearings at the end of the rear tubes. No grease packing on this setup from the factory.

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Nope, never was one in my rear axle housing, the seals on the end of the tubes keep the oil in, there aren't even any bosses in the pumpkin housing for an inner seal. Also, the rear axle is vented on the passenger side tube instead of the pumpkin because there is no inner seal in it. The reason for this is so the oil lubricates the bearings at the end of the rear tubes. No grease packing on this setup from the factory.
Ty very much . Waiting on shims so I can get this thing preloaded.

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I guess I'm out of luck trying to preload this by torqueing ut to 200 lb ft resting on Jack stands

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I guess I'm out of luck trying to preload this by torqueing ut to 200 lb ft resting on Jack stands
Even with no shims in place? What brand ring and pinion ?
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I guess I'm out of luck trying to preload this by torqueing ut to 200 lb ft resting on Jack stands
Even with no shims in place? What brand ring and pinion ?
Yukon gears. What i meant was when I put a torque wrench on the yoke nut i just lift the axle housing off the jack stands when trying to torque it to 200. I cant really began to torque it down . Don't get me wrong I can get the rotational preload with an impact gun but to use a torque wrench i think I'm gonna have to bolt in under the jeep . Which is fine. What did you mean ?

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Yukon gears. What i meant was when I put a torque wrench on the yoke nut i just lift the axle housing off the jack stands when trying to torque it to 200. I cant really began to torque it down . Don't get me wrong I can get the rotational preload with an impact gun but to use a torque wrench i think I'm gonna have to bolt in under the jeep . Which is fine. What did you mean ?
I thought you meant you can't get any preload reading. Did you try holding the yoke with a pipe wrench? Sometimes you need to use a pipe on the handle of the pipe wrench for more leverage to keep it from rotating as you apply torque to the nut.
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Yukon gears. What i meant was when I put a torque wrench on the yoke nut i just lift the axle housing off the jack stands when trying to torque it to 200. I cant really began to torque it down . Don't get me wrong I can get the rotational preload with an impact gun but to use a torque wrench i think I'm gonna have to bolt in under the jeep . Which is fine. What did you mean ?
I thought you meant you can't get any preload reading. Did you try holding the yoke with a pipe wrench? Sometimes you need to use a pipe on the handle of the pipe wrench for more leverage to keep it from rotating as you apply torque to the nut.
Oh okay. Thank you . I have about a 2 1/2 ft long yoke holding tool which is just a piece of iron with 2 holes for a u bolt or strap screws to go through.

1984 jeep cj7, 258 I6, rebuilt T176,rebuilt Dana 300, amc 20 , dana 30, 4.10's Trac-lok in rear , 4.10's detroit soft locker in dana 30, 2.5 inch bds suspension lift, 1 inch polyurethan body mount lift. Line ex. weber carburetor. factory tach. factory clock ,oem replacement speedomter cluster, and oil pressure gauge, factory volt gauge.
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