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post #1 of 65 Old 08-18-2020, 11:07 AM Thread Starter
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3 point hitch again...

Reviving an old thread.

I got several cat-1 attachments for my old tractor that really are to much as it's only a cat-0
I got a bottom plow, but use a scraper blade and a box blade regularly to groom the driveway.

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But $1600 for one for a 2" receiver is a little steep so I was thinking of modifying a popular tire carrier as soon as they are available.

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I already have the mounting hoop and hydraulic lift, just need some way of attaching it.

I need suggestions so I don't rip it off when grooming the drive.

If they can put a 3 point hitch on a 4X4 buggy, why not a CJ?

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post #2 of 65 Old 08-18-2020, 04:11 PM
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John I think you're on to a good idea. Here's something to look at. https://farmjeep.blogspot.com/2017/0...ent-lifts.html The swing out won't be a good place for the upper link. I think sooner or later it will bend or even break the spindle. There are other ways of attaching it though. Here's another link https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/s...opic36869.html John in the first picture something like this could be made to fit into 2 receivers mounted in the bumper. I would brace the frame where the bumper mounts. Basically when you want to use the hitch it would be attached then when you're done remove it. It would all need to be built into one unit.
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Oh... I like that Idea.

Think we can do this??

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That's what I had in mind. You won't need 4 d-rings though. How heavy are the attachments you plan to use? I also sent you an email.


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I was mimicking how the Lift arms attach on my tractor. Usually it has a swivel on the end of the arm so one point won't hold it.



They take the brunt of the pulling force of the attachments. THe upper point is under compression.

I can get some measurements and pictures when I get home.


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A little sneak peek into my new bumper...

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All that addo up to this:

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No, itís not bolted on yet but it slipped right over the ends of the bolts that is holding on the trailer hitch.

Some painting and longer bolts and Iím ready for a little driveway maintenance!

I canít begin to describe how overbuilt this bumper is. Iíll never worry about a rear end tap crushing some fiberglass ( I have a tendency to back up a little too fast at times)

A BIG thanks to Jim, when itís all hooked up, Iíll send you some pictures.

Oh? Whatís it for you ask?
Here is a picture of a test fit, need to buy some more 2X2.

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Interesting...



I was trying to picture how to connect a single bottom plow onto mine once. I had to dig a ditch almost 50 yards long, and thru rocky dirt. Thought a plow would loosen it, then I just have to scoop out what was left. Was quicker to just use a rototiller and break up the dirt that way...

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John I'm looking forward to seeing how the 3pt all works! Glad everything lined up too but then that was due to your good job of measuring!


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I purchased brackets made by Eddie Bersk years ago for strengthening a rear CJ bumper. Never used them on my CJ at the time.

I plan to use them on my current '79 CJ5. There are 4 heavy duty L shaped brackets and all nuts, bolts & tubes. The brackets sandwich
the rear frame rails. Each L bracket has the holes drilled - some oblong - and sit on the outsides of the rear frame rails and against the
inside of the rear cross-member. The brackets bolt to the rear frame rails and tubes are included to be placed inside the frame rails. The
L portion then bolts to the bumper. Each bolt passes through a tube so the frame does not get crushed when the bolts are tightened.

I will get some photos and measurements of these and post back here. I think these are a must if putting any king of stress on a CJ rear hitch.

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So John was were that bumper was heading! Fantastic!
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Here are photos of one of the “pair” of brackets I purchased years ago from Eddie Bersk. Great reinforcement to a CJ rear bumper / tire carrier.
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That’s a very nice reinforcement for the rear.

The lower hitch on my Jeep that will be doing the pulling looks like this:

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There is a long arm that attaches to the frame as far back as the centerline of the axle. This takes a lof of the force away from the rear cross member.
Also I have an AFW frame and the rear cross member is about 3/16” thick.

Hopefully it will be enough. Wish I had the rear reinforcement my old ‘63 CJ had. That was really reinforced
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I like that hitch. Only prob is with my stock 5 the receiver would hang really low. I like the long side tie backs to the frame.

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Our fuel tanks are in the way of the old CJ rear frame to crossmember “V” reinforcement. Be nice to have a quarter inch thick crossmember!

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I have that same model hitch on my 84 for almost 20 years now. It's definitely stout, and rated for far greater loads than I'd ever consider pulling with the CJ7. Although it comes off low, it sits just about perfect height with the 2.5 spring lift. In fact, I've been trying to figure out/find a similar style frame-rail tie-in hitch for the CJ8, but the 8's frame has a body mount bracket situated about 6" from the rear cross-member. :/

I also found out the hard way that the powder coated 'slip tubes' for the frame tie-ins on this hitch will eventually rust together- last time I had mine off, It took major effort and a lot of heat to separate the pieces. Once cleaned up and re-painted, I lathered the interior tube with copper anti-seize during assembly. Hoping that helps next time it has to come off-

Really like how if looks with that sweet Crabtree rear bumper!

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