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post #16 of 35 Old 08-18-2016, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
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And I typically don't dump the clutch. Not trying to do burn outs or power break. I was in soft soft sand when I first did it. And I'm not revving the engine high either. I know better. But you have test things out from time to time. Had I not done it, I wouldn't know there was even a problem....... I also have a brand new pertty drive shaft. Which by the way nothing is loose and banging up under there. Checked it out also

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post #17 of 35 Old 08-18-2016, 03:21 PM
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That's what she said........
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And I typically don't dump the clutch. Not trying to do burn outs or power break. I was in soft soft sand when I first did it. And I'm not revving the engine high either. I know better. But you have test things out from time to time. Had I not done it, I wouldn't know there was even a problem....... I also have a brand new pertty drive shaft. Which by the way nothing is loose and banging up under there. Checked it out also
From reading your initial post, it sounds like doing it is what caused it...
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Forgot to mention...When you pull the cover, check to see if your Trak Lok case is still in one piece. Early ones are not as strong as later ones...
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I pulled the cover last night. Everything is in one piece and not loose or shaky. Spun the tires by hand numerous rotations and didn't see anything off or broken. No cracks not missing teeth. Had a flashlight while doing so. And I barely spun the tires on a loose sand beach and it was immidietly noticeable. It was an existing problem. When I say dump the clutch, I'm not dogging it and flooring the gas petal and revving up high rpm. It would be equivalent to what someone would do if they didn't know how to drive a standard. Either way, it's an issue and I'd like to figure it out. If it's as simple as adding friction additive than awesome. If I have to dig further hopefully it's something noticeable and I won't be chasing the problem.
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I would look at the 2 piece axle/hub assemblies. One of them could be slipping under load. Further, if you're going to run 35's it would be a good idea to upgrade to 1 piece axles anyway.


Edit: That Jeep must be a real dog starting from a dead stop on inclines with 35's 3.54's and a T-150. I ran 33's on my CJ-5 when it had 3.54 gears and it really felt geared too high and I have a T-176. Starting on my short but steep driveway was a clutch riding affair.
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Ok so tried uploading a video to youtube of what I described while rotating the tires. Here is the link. It worked for me copying and pasting...

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Well, it posted the video....
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post #25 of 35 Old 08-19-2016, 10:03 AM
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I'd pull the left axle first. If it does need replacing, go with some one piece axles such as Mosers. It usually works out to be cheaper than going back with two piece axles and you get a stronger rear end.

I think the left axle splines are shot, but the axle is occasionally spinning just from contact friction. Before you start tearing things apart, can you repeat spinning the right tire while someone holds the left?

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Yes I can have someone hold it. you mean spin the driver side and have someone hold the passenger side to see if it stops moving too?
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Yes. I'm looking to see if any resistance stops the left axle from spinning.

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OK-The carrier is in one piece.
You have spun one or both hubs, I'll bet.
Pull the nose cap off the axle end and put a socket on(with cheater bar) it and see if you can tighten it more than 1/2 turn.
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Kind of reminds me of the time I first put the additive in with my track lock. Worked great until I hammered it pulling out of a parking lot.

I would alternately catch and grab on the way home. Under power the spun hub would slip but under light power it would hold.

As a temp fix, I drilled a 1/4" hole between the hub and the axle shaft same direction as the splines, and drove in 1/4" steel rod. It acted as a key and worked for a little while.


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post #30 of 35 Old 08-19-2016, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
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So. Jacked it up. Stopped the passenger tire from rotating. In neutral. Spun the driver side tire. Drive shaft and tire all spun smoothly while passenger side stayed stopped. Jacked both sides up. Spun the driver side tire again but more quicker than before maybe. And the passenger side began to spin then stopped. So it changed a little. Before while spinning the driver side tire the passenger side kept up. As in the video. Now it's stopping on its own. This might be a no no but I wanted to see. I put it in first and tried to turn the driver side tire by hand to see if it would go. Like if stripped. I couldn't make it go if I wanted.
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