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post #1 of 16 Old 06-16-2021, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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The kbadwk build thread

It's about time for me to kick off my build thread! Will follow up with details and pictures for each modification.

Starting point:

- 2008 Grand Cherokee Laredo
- 4.7L V8
- QTII, 3.73 gears
- RFE545 transmission
- NV245 transfer case
- Tow package with hill control

Modifications:

- ABS honeycomb grille modification
- JBA upper control arms
- OME HD springs (front and rear)
- Bilstien 5100 struts and shocks
- Rusty's adjustable trackbar
- Front pinch weld modification
- Gas tank skid modification
- Spidertrax 1.5" spacers
- Mopar Recon wheels 17x7.5, 5.5" BS
- Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70R17
- HK Offroad front shackle tabs
- Anzo black projector / halo headlights
- Jeeperf 5100 coilover conversion kit
- Brake motive drilled and slotted rotors
- Moog lower control arms
- Moog upper strut mounts
- Moog strut isolators
- Trim front bumper
- Jeeperf HD differential bushings
- Swap QTII front differential for QDII with eLSD
- Switch / relay for QDII eLSD
- Eaton TrueTrac LSD for rear differential
- Motive 4.11 gears
- HK Offroad Kratos tire carrier
- Riddler Mfg rear differential cover
- Tom Woods front drive shaft
- Asfir front skid plate
- Asfir transfer case skid plate
- Bedliner side rail, rear step, grille
- Baofeng condole mount
- Timkin hubs
- Mevotec TTX lower ball joints
- Replace interior lighting (Phillips LEDs)
- Jeeperf Superflex tie rods

How she looks today



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post #2 of 16 Old 06-18-2021, 03:14 PM Thread Starter
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Here she is before I started going to town



After putting in a ABS honeycomb grill a la @craigbru

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Here she is before I started going to town



After putting in a ABS honeycomb grill a la @craigbru

Looks great man!

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I'm not seeing the photos...?
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Pictures should be fixed, I was self hosting them and needed to setup https. Some browsers don't allow https pages (ie when you're logged in to this site) to embed / load images over http.
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Initial lift setup

* Bilstein 5100 front struts (middle circlip)
* OME HD front coils (2991)
* OME HD rear coils (2993)
* Bilstein 5100 rear shocks
* Rusty's adjustable trackbar (~5/8" IIRC), required to re-center axle
* SDT 2" rear lift spacer
* Pinch weld modification
* Gas tank skid modification

Some pictures from the lift install day

Before lift




Stock vs JBA upper control arms



Stock vs OME HD springs



Assembled OME HD front coils and Bilstein 5100 struts



Assembled struts and UCA installed in the front



Rear installation of spacers, coil, and shock



Gas tank skid plate modification



Pinch weld modification (I want to go back and take this higher)




Post Lift



Wheels (Recon take offs), Spidertrax spacers (1.5"), Nitto Ridge Grapplers in 285/70/17

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That wheel and tire combo looks terrific! (yes, I can see the photos now)

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Damn...yours looks so clean compared to mine. I have so many dings, dents and bends in everything! That all black look is just too perfect!
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Formerly that was true. I have some nice trail pin striping down both sides now
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Perhaps you can answer this for me. I posted the following to Notrailrated on their Facebook page because their website has no contact info but I am not even sure if they are actually in business anymore. I am at least not getting any response from them but you seem to be using close to if not the same lift setup they are and I plan to do the same but I have questions...

Your website is missing contact information and the chat function does not work. I hope I can get a question answered regarding your 4" lift for the WK.
The website states that the following comes with the kit...
Included in this kit: 2- Bilstein Ride Adjustable Front Struts, 2- Front OME Springs, 2-Bilstein 4" Rear Shocks, 2- Rear OME Springs, 2- Rear 2" Spacers
I see that there are 4" rear shocks and 2" spacers that go with the 2" OME springs for a total of 4" lift. I am good on that part but the front is a little confusing. I see there is the Bilstein Ride Adjustable front struts and OME front springs but if I am not mistaken, the OME springs are only 2" of lift...so where does the other 2" of lift come from for the springs? Do the struts add the extra lift somehow? If so...could you explain how they work exactly?
Also...I know that a lift of this height will cause some other issues requiring an adjustable rear trackbar and UCA's but would replacing the front driveshaft with a longer one resolve the issue of needing to drop the t-case or would dropping the t-case still be required? I know Tom Woods has a much better driveshaft than the stock one and I think you even have something like them on your site.
Thank you for your time.

Any clarity you can provide would be appreciated.
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I actually bought my original lift (struts, shocks, coils, coil spacers, trackbar) from him. Transaction went fine and the ordered items showed up, albeit all drop shipped (boxes from Rusty's, random ebay sellers, etc) in a timely manner.

No directions whatsoever, and he was total incommunicado. I tried to contact him by email, in YouTube comments, and on Instagram. I wouldn't buy things from him again personally, since that sort of thing really bothers me.

The 5100 struts have a circlip with three settings that adjust the preload on the coils. With stock coils the preload settings result in 0.75", 1.5", or 2" of lift by themselves. The first two settings, in conjunction with the OME springs, can get you to ~4", plus or minus an inch or so. Where you end up depends on how much weight you have in the front (engine size, skids, bumper, winch). For me, I was too low on the first setting, and too high on the second setting, and that's why I ultimately added the JeePerf coilover sleeves so I could dial it in right at 23" hub to fender.

The "optional" track bar (Rusty's) isn't something I would consider to be "optional". If you installed that lift (more commonly known as a modified OME) without the track bar the rear axle will be shifted measurably towards the driver side. I adjusted mine to be 5/8" longer than stock and that near perfectly re-centered the axle.

Dropping the front differential reduces the angle of the CV half shafts, but doing this requires notching / reinforcing the crossmember. This increases the angle of the front drive shaft, which is why a lot of folks upgrade the drive shaft to a double cardan after the drop. It's not a matter of doing the latter to avoid doing the former. I've gone through a few driver side CV half shafts because I have not dropped my front differential. I bought a Tom Wood's front drive shaft because it was cheaper and beefier than OEM, and my original one was due for replacement.

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Awesome...that makes sense. So realistically, I could buy those struts, set them to the lowest setting which should allow for MORE spring travel and a better ride and then use a 2" puck or clevis lift to gain the extra height that would be needed?
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If ride quality is your end goal, then you might look into the full OME lift, complete with OME struts/shocks. My understanding is their valving is not as harsh as what you would get from Bilstein.

The spacers, IIUC, also add preload. The big spacer that comes with the Superlift is even described as a ‘preload spacer’. So putting the Bilstein struts on the lower setting in combination with using a longer clevis or strut mount spacer would seem to be somewhat of a shell game.
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Gotcha. Ultimately, I just want 4 inches of lift as the end goal. I installed a Supreme Suspensions 3.5 inch front clevis and 2 inch rear puck lift and did not really get the results I expected. My Jeep also seems to be riding on a slight slant to one side. Need to figure out what that is all about.
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If ride quality is your end goal, then you might look into the full OME lift, complete with OME struts/shocks. My understanding is their valving is not as harsh as what you would get from Bilstein.
I believe that is backward, I only have the OME HD and it is a little stiffer than what I've heard the 5100s offer. Maybe the OME MD would be. Hopefully someone else can chime in.

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