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post #1 of 11 Old 07-12-2019, 11:55 PM Thread Starter
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Front Limited slip differential

This gets called a locker so often, and I absolutely love my front elsd I control via a switch when I want it. But this video shows that it IS an limited slip, my front tire does slip despite having the front ELSD turned on 100%. I still love it, and bang for the buck, absolutely one of the best mods with a set of junkyard axles. Just remember, they can and will slip, they are NOT lockers!




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post #2 of 11 Old 07-13-2019, 12:10 AM
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I cant really see it on your video. Are you sure your Dif is in order? Mine was not locking some time ago, as the oil filter was dirty...

After some good cleaning and new oil+modifier, it now fully locks! As in NO slip when manually switched on.

There are other videos on youtube showing how QD II properly locks both wheels
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The description from the manufacturer states that they go from slip to full lock. If yours isn't, somethings wrong with it.

https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/catal...erentials.html
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Mine goes full lock. Soemth8ng wrong with yours.

Jeepers do it in the mud. ;)
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I cant really see it on your video. Are you sure your Dif is in order? Mine was not locking some time ago, as the oil filter was dirty...
Are you talking about the internal magnet when you say "filter?"

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Are you talking about the internal magnet when you say "filter?"


No, the ELSD has an oil pump and filter. It uses hydraulic oil pressure to lock the diferencial. It has a tiny mesh filter that can get clogged up and block oil flow.
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I will not argue that mine may not be a spring chicken, I will also not diminish what they add because though the video may not show it, this was something that open diffs NEVER would have pulled me through without a nice runup at speed... I have synthetic valvoline 75w140 with mopar LSD additive (and about 6k miles on it). This differential uses a clutch pack applied with fluid pressure. There is no positive locking mechanism like a "locker" would have.

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I would check the state of the solenoid to ensure it is working properly, and then the small oil filter.

Yes, oil pressure engages the clutch pack

An open dif wont get you far I agree, but new traction control systems will apply abs to the slipping wheel, forcing power to the wheel with traction. It is very effective and very capable. Our WK will default to QT II “break limited slip dif” and get you out of trouble if for any reason the dif does not lock.

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No, the ELSD has an oil pump and filter. It uses hydraulic oil pressure to lock the diferencial. It has a tiny mesh filter that can get clogged up and block oil flow.
Good to know! I learn something new everyday! Thanks brother!

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An open dif wont get you far I agree, but new traction control systems will apply abs to the slipping wheel, forcing power to the wheel with traction. It is very effective and very capable. Our WK will default to QT II “break limited slip dif” and get you out of trouble if for any reason the dif does not lock.

Tires can still hold you back though. QTII and QDII can't do much if you've got the wrong tires for the conditions.
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Remember that while its not a physical locking pin or similar clutch packs can impart a massive amount of force on the recipient (think of the clutches used in transmissions). I do wonder if there is some element of clutch wear or lower oil pressure over time that is now being seen with some of these being ~15 years old. I've had the same with mine a few times and it will often leave me a error code as a reminder. I've actually got a spare front diff sitting on my bench that I want to disassemble to have a look at how the clutch packs and solenoid work. Its got ~100k miles on it so probably a little below average but will be sure to share pics when I get it opened up.

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