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post #1 of 11 Old 01-02-2020, 09:14 PM Thread Starter
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Enclosed Trailers

I am pondering the purchase of a used enclosed trailer. I know I want a 7000# tandem with brakes and barn doors on the back. Not too sure about size. 6'x12' and 7'x17' seem to be the available sizes without being too small or too big for my needs. The goal is to use the trailer for a move 3 hours South on 4-lane roads. I can do the trip multiple times so I do not need to get everything into the trailer in one shot. I would either sell the trailer or keep it around for random jobs/storage after the move. 7'x17' would be way better for storage but I'm not sure I would want to haul it around on surface streets too much.

The tow vehicles would be the 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD and a 2004 Chevy Express 3500 Class B camper. I have towed uhaul car carriers and tow dollies with the Jeep and it did OK with that.

Any thoughts and opinions on the matter would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 11 Old 01-06-2020, 09:48 PM
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I have a 6'x12' tandem axle V-nose trailer that I used to move from New Orleans to Connecticut. I had it loaded up to 5,000 pounds and my CRD towed it quite well. The 6' wide trailer I could use the stock mirrors and still see well.

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post #3 of 11 Old 01-07-2020, 06:01 AM
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If you're planning to make multiple trips and only getting the trailer for the move, why not just rent the 6x12 u-haul trailer? Seems it would be far cheaper and much less hassle. :huh:

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The intent is to find a used trailer I can resell for about what I paid for it. The enclosed trailers hold their value well for a long period of time after the initial price drop of buying new.

The cost of a rental 6x12 is about $200 for a 5 day period and I believe I would need to make 4 trips with one of those trailers so that would be $800. If I use the trailer for storage that would probably be a value of $200 per month so I save money doing that too. Owning the trailer also gives me more time to load the thing and unload it at my leisure as there is no major rush to sell the house.

Having the trailer for storage also helps because I am able to declutter the house significantly for some baseboard install and to stage it for sale. In Canada we can claim moving expenses on our taxes so I would probably get half of the trailer's value given back to me or at the very least recoup half of the loss if I sold it at a loss. Anyway, that's my thought process.

I'm currently working on getting a 7.5' x 16' tandem which would be big enough to haul my Hupmobile. It seems nice and it meets the towing specs in the Jeep's manual. I'm a bit concerned about getting into a sway and being spun around if I'm not careful. That's something I need to wrap my head around because it would be very easy to load a trailer that big up to some astronomical weight if I'm not careful. One would think that the brake controller would be hooked into the ABS/Stability Control but it seems that the world isn't that advanced yet.

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I've never towed an enclosed trailer but I did recently post my impressions of towing a 6300lb flat bed:

https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f67/...ee-wk-4381079/

My main advice is to make sure you get a weight distributing hitch and also be mindful of proper weight distribution of cargo inside the trailer. Proper tongue weight should prevent the trailer from swaying. You can also get a WD hitch that has anti-sway control which would probably be helpful on really windy days.
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I haven't towed with the WK yet, but my ZJ with the 5.2 V8 pulled my old 24' travel trailer pretty well. It has an old cheap brake controller and once set right for the trailer it did fine. It did need a load leveling hitch and proper tongue weight to avoid swaying issues. I will probably get some kind of sway control for the WK just to make it easier. A travel trailer tongue weight changes quite a bit with water usage.
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Yes, I would be interested in more reports on large travel trailers like 24 footers! They are big bulky things although they don't weight a whole lot.

I have not had any trouble with car carriers, motorcycle carriers, etc. but the front end does come up a bit with pretty reasonable tongue weights. I have a feeling the big enclosed trailers will behave worse due to wind and the ability to have the weight higher up. I haven't towed one with the Jeep but I had poor experienced with one that was home made that I towed with an Econoline van. I ended up selling the trailer as a shed on wheels rather than listing it as a trailer.
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post #8 of 11 Old 01-08-2020, 11:57 PM
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I have towed a 23' bowrider with a big block engine (heavy) with my WK diesel for 6 years and it has performed quite well. The all up weight / boat and trailer is just over 7,000 lbs. I tow it from Vancouver up the infamous Coquihalla highway into the interior of BC. I have had no problem at all with control but I am very careful on the major down hill sections - I usually put it in 3rd gear and try to keep it below 80 km/hr on the steepest sections. As long as you have the weight properly distributed you should be fine - but having the weight in the right spot - not too much to the back is the key thing.

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post #9 of 11 Old 02-02-2020, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
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I had a trailer follow me home yesterday. A 2018 ATC Raven 7'x16' with a 2' v-nose. 1904# empty, 7700# loaded. At 100 km/hr (60 MPH) it seems like it is costing me about 2 l/100 km in additional fuel. It has a nasty habit of kicking the tongue sideways going down rough roads. It is possible that the trailer was in the air when doing that...I haven't figured it out yet. Otherwise tows well.



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post #10 of 11 Old 02-04-2020, 12:31 PM
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I've found the WK to be a very good tow vehicle as long as you manage the tongue weight correctly and the trailer has good brakes. Either the Diesel or the Hemi V8 can tow up to the limit safely, as long as you keep those facts in mind and the smaller size makes maneuvering trailers a lot easier than with full size trucks.

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post #11 of 11 Old 02-04-2020, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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I think it is going to work out well. I am going to get a Weigh Safe ball so that I can adjust tongue weight as I am loading. I will have to use ballast when carrying cars but I will have enough weight capacity available that it won't be a problem.
https://www.weigh-safe.com
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