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post #1 of 14 Old 09-18-2019, 04:20 AM Thread Starter
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2009 WK lift questions

09 WK Hemi overland
The goal is to mount either 255 75 r17 JK Rubi pull off BFG MTs or 255 70 r17s depending on what I learn here.

I dont like running wheel spacers so will most likely look for aftermarket wheels with backspacing in the 4.5 to 5.5 range.

Here are my questions re available lift options.

I am a fan of Old Man Emu products but if the 2 lift that they make is a leveling lift Im wondering how much that pushes the front end up. If the effective lift height is more like 3-4 (to get it leveled with the rear) then thatll probably be more of an angle / stress on the CV joints than I am interested in. So Id love to hear from anyone who has mounted the OME kits to see what you actually got there.

Second choice would be the adjustable Bilstein 5100s up front with a spacer in the rear. The question there becomes - which setting up front and how much spacer in the rear to clear the tire sizes listed up top here? Again, Id love to hear from those who did this.

Side question- I noticed some light rust on the gas tank skid so Id like to pull it to clean it up and apply POR15. I cant tell whether the gas tank and skid are fully integrated such that Id have to drop both to get the skid out or perhaps there are bands under there such that I could just drop the skid?


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post #2 of 14 Old 09-18-2019, 06:49 AM
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I have an OME lift on my current WK and had one on my last WK. I would say it looks pretty level and with the lift and tire size combo it almost looks liek it could have been a stock option. You can look through the wheel/tire picture sticky thread and find a bunch of people running that same combination. As for the skid plate, it supports the gas tank so if you unbolt it then the gas tank will want to drop with it so its best to do it with a nearly empty tank.

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post #3 of 14 Old 09-18-2019, 07:26 AM
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Dont forget you could combine the 5100s with a strut omate spacer, I have the 5100s in the lowest setting plus a 1/4 top plate. So that nets me 1.25 inches lift in the front, and I used 1.5 inch spacers for the rear coils. Later on I will add taller spacers to the front and an additional rubber coil isolater at the back. So i can hopefully run 265 70 17

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post #4 of 14 Old 09-18-2019, 07:55 AM
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I installed OME medium springs on the front of my 2008 WK 3.0 crd. I netted almost 4" of lift from the sagging stock springs. My hub center to fender measurements were just about the maximum recommended distance. I fit JK Rubicon take off rims and tires (255-75r17 bfg km0) without doing the pinch weld mod, though they do rub the plastic fender liners at full lock.

The OME struts are the same length as stock so the increased ride height results in a reduction in down travel. As it sits my Jeep has almost zero droop (think wheels going into a pothole). It rides rather harsh compared to factory but it does handle really well.

I am putting together a strut top hat lift with new aftermarket springs in hopes that they ride better. The one catch is that the strut top hat lift will allow more down travel, which is good for the ride quality but could cause more wear to components at severe angles.

Depending on your timeframe I may have some fully assembled OME medium struts available for purchase in the next 2 weeks. The struts are only a couple of months old as OME was kind enough to send me replacements to help with the ride quality.

I'm at work and on my phone so posting pictures is a bit of a hassle at the moment. Let me know if there is something specific you want to see.

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post #5 of 14 Old 09-18-2019, 06:17 PM
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I just installed the HD OME lift on my 07 Overland CRD and gained 2'' all the way around the jeep still has the rake in where the front is lower than the rear. I hate that look but I'm not taking it all apart again so it is what it is. All together I gained 2.5" in the front and 2" in the rear but still has the rake.

Since I had it all apart I replaced the lower control arms with what ever brand Auto Zone had in stock and the upper control arms with extended length JBA's At alignment time the guy said everything lined back up as it should, he was done in 30 minutes.

I went with a wheel made by gear that has factory spec back spacing and Nitto Terra Grapplers 265/70/17 I got a really good deal on the combo so that's what I'm running till they go bald. Had to do the pinch weld mod and they still rub the fender liners at full lock in reverse. Easy enough to trim and fix after it gets too annoying.

Ride quality of the lift is great, It just eats up the bumps on and off the road, and handles the curves like it's on rails I was a little worried about the HD springs being too stiff but maybe it's the extra weight of the diesel motor, glad I listened to Kolak on this forum and by the way I would message him and see what he has to offer { I saved a few bucks using him for the lift}

As far as the cv joint angle I really see no difference in before and after, it's only a 2'' lift so I feel like it will be fine. When I was replacing the lower control arms and had the axle hanging loose I played around with the flexing of the joint and it has a lot of downward movement before it feels tight and wants to bind.

I highly recommend the OME lift, JBA arms and buying the lift from Kolak
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post #6 of 14 Old 09-18-2019, 06:59 PM
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I second the OME Lift, from Kolak. And, while you are at it, talk with him about the upgraded Addco Sway bars. I realy like what they did for my '07 OM642 WK
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post #7 of 14 Old 09-19-2019, 03:33 AM Thread Starter
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I just installed the HD OME lift on my 07 Overland CRD and gained 2'' all the way around the jeep still has the rake in where the front is lower than the rear. I hate that look but I'm not taking it all apart again so it is what it is. All together I gained 2.5" in the front and 2" in the rear but still has the rake.



Since I had it all apart I replaced the lower control arms with what ever brand Auto Zone had in stock and the upper control arms with extended length JBA's At alignment time the guy said everything lined back up as it should, he was done in 30 minutes.



I went with a wheel made by gear that has factory spec back spacing and Nitto Terra Grapplers 265/70/17 I got a really good deal on the combo so that's what I'm running till they go bald. Had to do the pinch weld mod and they still rub the fender liners at full lock in reverse. Easy enough to trim and fix after it gets too annoying.



Ride quality of the lift is great, It just eats up the bumps on and off the road, and handles the curves like it's on rails I was a little worried about the HD springs being too stiff but maybe it's the extra weight of the diesel motor, glad I listened to Kolak on this forum and by the way I would message him and see what he has to offer { I saved a few bucks using him for the lift}



As far as the cv joint angle I really see no difference in before and after, it's only a 2'' lift so I feel like it will be fine. When I was replacing the lower control arms and had the axle hanging loose I played around with the flexing of the joint and it has a lot of downward movement before it feels tight and wants to bind.



I highly recommend the OME lift, JBA arms and buying the lift from Kolak


Great news and thanks for the details! If I have the option of going OME without causing cv issues Im all in. I have run their stuff on a number of Wranglers and the build quality / performance was spot on every time.



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I second the OME Lift, from Kolak. And, while you are at it, talk with him about the upgraded Addco Sway bars. I realy like what they did for my '07 OM642 WK
Well daggum it nobody mentioned addco sway bars to me, that's one more thing I could have done to the Jeep while I was under it.
My Jeep is very rust free, it's so rust free that working under it is almost a pleasure, all my vehicles in the past have been so rusted underneath that just changing brake pads was a chore so yeah give me something else under it to do.
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post #9 of 14 Old 09-19-2019, 03:09 PM
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Thanks for mentioning me everyone

If I can assist with an OME lift, Addco swaybars, etc, please PM me here on the forum or email me at [email protected]

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post #10 of 14 Old 09-19-2019, 03:24 PM
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One thing to note maybe os if you live somewhere with real winters most shocks will die ina year or two. I killed a set of OME shocks and struts within about 18 months.

Kolak and OME were both great about warranty.

I asked and OME said they tested to -20C.

It was sub -30C for months here last winter.

Just make sure you get new warrantied parts within the warranty period...
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I just did OME medium coils with Bilstein 4600s. I got the coils from Kolak as well. Ride and handling is pretty good. Definitely a bit more harsh but my original suspension had around 190k. I also replaced everything else while I was at it.

The front wheel gap looks a bit larger than the rear but it seems mostly level to me. Front hub center to fender is 22.5, rear is 22.
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I just did OME medium coils with Bilstein 4600s. I got the coils from Kolak as well. Ride and handling is pretty good. Definitely a bit more harsh but my original suspension had around 190k. I also replaced everything else while I was at it.

The front wheel gap looks a bit larger than the rear but it seems mostly level to me. Front hub center to fender is 22.5, rear is 22.


Looks good! Whats your wheel / tire size and are you running spacers?


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It came with the chrome clad 18s when I got it. I swapped them first thing for 17s. I stuck with 245/65/17. At the time, I had no intention on lifting it, but when I decided to replace the complete suspension, I had a hard time finding non lift springs.

After running last winter on the KO2’s, I decided to also grab a set of snow tires for it. The KO2’s did not do as well in the snow as I’d hoped. The winter tires are 225/75/17.
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Im running a budget 2” lift with 255/75/17 bf goodrich mt km on rubicon wheels and 1.5” spacers. With rubicon wheels you need the spacers to clear the brake caliper.
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