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post #2206 of 2231 Old 04-12-2017, 06:50 PM
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Now that looks like a nice unit but wow the price tag as well.

I'm almost just considering using the pin and sleeve that came with the bumper. drill in a zero fitting in the side of the sleeve and call it good.

I'm just unsure how the whole carrier stays down and what prevents someone from simply picking it up of the hinge..

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Now that looks like a nice unit but why the price tag as well.

I'm almost just considering using the pin and sleeve that came with the bumper. drill in a zero fitting in the side of the sleeve and call it good.

I'm just unsure how the whole carrier stays down and what prevents someone from simply picking it up of the hinge..
Are you refering to the spindle that's not welded in but the sleeve in the pic above?.... The sleeve welds in then the spindle presses in no one will be able to pull that out without super man brute strength. The idea behind that setup is welding the spindle to the bumper makes it brittle so has a possibility to crack and break off.

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Are you refering to the spindle that's not welded in but the sleeve in the pic above?.... The sleeve welds in then the spindle presses in no one will be able to pull that out without super man brute strength. The idea behind that setup is welding the spindle to the bumper makes it brittle so has a possibility to crack and break off.
. I think he was referring to the kit unit he already had, just a post with a piece of tubing over it.

It doesn't press in, it's a slip fit; it'll fall right out. The idea is just to put a little weld on the bottom to locate and secure it, but the welded-in sleeve takes all the load.
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Are you refering to the spindle that's not welded in but the sleeve in the pic above?.... The sleeve welds in then the spindle presses in no one will be able to pull that out without super man brute strength. The idea behind that setup is welding the spindle to the bumper makes it brittle so has a possibility to crack and break off.
dwilliams35 is right. This is what I was referring to;
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For the spare tire mount - what do you guys do, buy new wheel studs and weld them to the plate or what?

It seems the studs on the stock carrier are spot welded on..
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For the spare tire mount - what do you guys do, buy new wheel studs and weld them to the plate or what?

It seems the studs on the stock carrier are spot welded on..
It's just a bolt.... drill a hole, stick it through, tack down the head.
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Whats the consensus about welding while the bumper is on the vehicle? Everything to date I've constructed on the bench etc. Now that the bumper is approaching completion minus the tire carrier.. I made up some lower mounts that will tie it to the frame. But due to the design of the bumper and it would be beneficial if I could tack these two brackets onto the bumper while its fastened to the vehicle to get the right angle/depth etc.

I know the gas tank is right behind me basically.

Never welded anything while it was on the car, should the battery be disconnected or is this just a bad idea?


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i just disconnect the battery. keep the ground as close as i can. on a 2012. never been a issue. have done a lot of welding on it. But You have to be careful. not to burn it to the ground. If can do it off better. somethings you really cant.

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Well I can't believe it but the bumper is basically nearly done. The carrier came tougher - found a local mechanist and he helped me out with the spindle/sleeve idea and it works beautifully. I've welded everything together and only a couple of items left to figure out.

1) The carrier once on the Jeep seems to bounce a bit. I haven't figured out a latch idea (thats my second point). but I'm wondering what do you guys recommend to prevent this? The end where the latch would fall sits pretty much on the top of the rear bumper.. It seems the bounce is at the upper part of the A-frame.

2) Any recommendations for a latch? I see a lot of guys use these Destaco latches, are they good and worth the money?

3) Paint, but thats a easy one!
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Well I can't believe it but the bumper is basically nearly done. The carrier came tougher - found a local mechanist and he helped me out with the spindle/sleeve idea and it works beautifully. I've welded everything together and only a couple of items left to figure out.

1) The carrier once on the Jeep seems to bounce a bit. I haven't figured out a latch idea (thats my second point). but I'm wondering what do you guys recommend to prevent this? The end where the latch would fall sits pretty much on the top of the rear bumper.. It seems the bounce is at the upper part of the A-frame.

2) Any recommendations for a latch? I see a lot of guys use these Destaco latches, are they good and worth the money?

3) Paint, but thats a easy one!
Destaco is more money than the others but well worth while.

If the swing is bouncing a lot while the Jeep is parked it'll beat itself to death on the road. I've built a couple of these things. On my Jeep I don't use a spindle and swing but the principle is the same. Make sure your spindle bearing is tight. It's not like a wheel bearing where it needs a bit of play, pull out all the play. On the swings I've made I always build a "rest" for the swing to sit on. Picture it as a slightly tapered ramp the swing sits on so the weight is now on both ends of the swing not just the spindle end. I use metal with poly material on top so there is no metal to metal contact which can be noisy. I used an old poly kitchen cutting board for this. And the latch should sit at a slight angle so it pulls the swing into the rest. If that don't make sense I can take a pic of mine and show you.

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Well I know I have to adjust the rear rubber snuggers I'm sure it's going to help. And the latch end I might just do the whole bolt with a T handle on it as it seems to be the best and most fail safe.

However the bumper shouldn't bounce that much lol or am I missing something here?
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Well I know I have to adjust the rear rubber snuggers I'm sure it's going to help. And the latch end I might just do the whole bolt with a T handle on it as it seems to be the best and most fail safe.

However the bumper shouldn't bounce that much lol or am I missing something here?
I did the destaco route; its got an actual tension to it that'll lock down the rattling pretty well. I doubt you're going to get the same level of tension with a bolt/t-handle without a cheater pipe or something, and you can open the destaco in about a second.
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Well I know I have to adjust the rear rubber snuggers I'm sure it's going to help. And the latch end I might just do the whole bolt with a T handle on it as it seems to be the best and most fail safe.

However the bumper shouldn't bounce that much lol or am I missing something here?
I did the destaco route; its got an actual tension to it that'll lock down the rattling pretty well. I doubt you're going to get the same level of tension with a bolt/t-handle without a cheater pipe or something, and you can open the destaco in about a second.
Ya the destaco latch looks nice but I also read a few times where it actually let loose.

I drilled and tapped a couple of holes today in the arms and added a couple of rubber feet I had laying around to get the tire snug on the arm. Next step will be to get the whole a-frame to be snug against the tailgate..
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Ya the destaco latch looks nice but I also read a few times where it actually let loose.

I drilled and tapped a couple of holes today in the arms and added a couple of rubber feet I had laying around to get the tire snug on the arm. Next step will be to get the whole a-frame to be snug against the tailgate..
They do make the destacos with safety latches....
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